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Well, this has never really happened, anywhere, ever. People such as this are happy to make a blanket claim like "evolution is a lie" or "there is no science behind evolution" but of course such claims can't be substantiated.
It would be like saying the sun isn't gaseous.
Another question I have asked repeatedly to both jeffbase and Eusebius--direct, honest, simple question--that neither they nor anyone else has even thought about answering (which would, of course, require thought, which may explain things) is:
"Why are you so invested in the idea that evolution cannot be real?"
Honestly, why is this? Just because a person accepts the facts of evolution as real, it doesn't automatically preclude the existence of a creator or the act of creation.
It's patently obvious whenever someone attempts to argue against the facts of evolution that they fail to understand even the most basic principles of evolution, and often those of science in general.
This is where it becomes so evident that fundamentalism is the most shallow, weak and rigid form of faith and belief possible. It can't countenance or withstand the most plain and obvious evidence or questions.
Those who claim to "know" the answers to the biggest questions ever posed are so immersed in their mindset--"my daddy believed this, my pastor preaches it and I'm told The Bible says it and must be interpreted only this way, so that's the way it is, and that's what is right, therefore everything else MUST be wrong!"--have stopped all inellectual processes in that area. They feel all the answers are determined and found in one place and their paper-thin faith rejects any additional spiritual quest or growth or investigation. Their minds begin to atrophy from lack of curiosity or activity.
These same people will claim that science also states it has all the answers, etc. But of course this just further illustrates they lack the most basic, kindergarten-level understandind of what science is and how it functions.
Because once you acknowledge that the Bible is not inerrant, what does that say about your entire belief system? What other untrue things might you be believing?
Another question I have asked repeatedly to both jeffbase and Eusebius--direct, honest, simple question--that neither they nor anyone else has even thought about answering (which would, of course, require thought, which may explain things) is:
"Why are you so invested in the idea that evolution cannot be real?"
Honestly, why is this? Just because a person accepts the facts of evolution as real, it doesn't automatically preclude the existence of a creator or the act of creation.
As a theoretical concept, no - evolution (in and of itself) does not disprove the bible.
But on a practical level, the minute you accept evolution of humans, you are directly and completely contradicting the entire book of Genesis. Genesis specifically and unequivocally states that god created one original man and one original woman, and that all humans descended directly from those two individuals. So if you accept the fact of evolution, you must necessarily reject Genesis, which then undermines the veracity of the entire remainder of the Bible.
As a theoretical concept, no - evolution (in and of itself) does not disprove the bible.
But on a practical level, the minute you accept evolution of humans, you are directly and completely contradicting the entire book of Genesis. Genesis specifically and unequivocally states that god created one original man and one original woman, and that all humans descended directly from those two individuals. So if you accept the fact of evolution, you must necessarily reject Genesis, which then undermines the veracity of the entire remainder of the Bible.
I tend to think of tales such as those in The Book of Genesis as allegorical. Similarly to the way Jesus is said to have taught in parables.
The message, moral and meaning conveyed in those stories may well contain Truth without the framework of the stories being literally true.
In fact, I'd argue that taking these stories, parables, etc. as literal truth, or as historically accurate accounts only serves to cheapen those ideas they convey. Rob them of their depth and majesty.
That they are not literally true doesn't at all detract from their value. Taking them at face value is the most base, simpleminded approach to them, and it's a shame that some abandon all reason and thought to attempt to present them as literal truth. This is not just unnecessary, it is, of coursr, untenable. Frankly, it's nonsense beneath human dignity.
Makes me think of, say, the Boogeyman. A small child might view the Boogeyman as a real entity, or be convinced it is such. An adult should be able to comprehend the Boogeyman is merely symbolic of our fears, etc.
For an adult to assert the Boogeyman is an actual being who truly exists is both laughable and pathetic.
I tend to think of tales such as those in The Book of Genesis as allegorical. Similarly to the way Jesus is said to have taught in parables.
The message, moral and meaning conveyed in those stories may well contain Truth without the framework of the stories being literally true.
In fact, I'd argue that taking these stories, parables, etc. as literal truth, or as historically accurate accounts only serves to cheapen those ideas they convey. Rob them of their depth and majesty.
That they are not literally true doesn't at all detract from their value. Taking them at face value is the most base, simpleminded approach to them, and it's a shame that some abandon all reason and thought to attempt to present them as literal truth. This is not just unnecessary, it is, of coursr, untenable. Frankly, it's nonsense beneath human dignity.
Makes me think of, say, the Boogeyman. A small child might view the Boogeyman as a real entity, or be convinced it is such. An adult should be able to comprehend the Boogeyman is merely symbolic of our fears, etc.
For an adult to assert the Boogeyman is an actual being who truly exists is both laughable and pathetic.
Sure, but the fundies always want it both ways. They insist that the bible is the absolute, unerring, direct word of god, except when it's meant to be allegory. "Well, yeah, the one about stoning gays is meant to be taken literally, but not the one about stoning adulterers." Every single time you point out a contradiction, they scurry away from it and squeal, "oh, no, we don't really mean that one. It's all the other ones that we mean."
They just cherrypick whatever suits their agenda, and have no intellectual honesty whatsoever. That's what makes it impossible to take their religion seriously.
Because once you acknowledge that the Bible is not inerrant, what does that say about your entire belief system? What other untrue things might you be believing?
Hold your fire, Pet. I think Griff is on our side (Theistic evolution). I could be wrong.
I tend to think of tales such as those in The Book of Genesis as allegorical. Similarly to the way Jesus is said to have taught in parables.
When Jesus taught in parables, the main characters were not given names. It is always "a certain man", "a rich man", etc. In the OT, characters in the "stories" are given names. Jesus refers to a number of OT people by name.
Hold your fire, Pet. I think Griff is on our side (Theistic evolution). I could be wrong.
Not that it matters to anyone what I think, but for the record I DO believe in evolution, and as far as deities are concerned, I don't default to the belief in them, though I acknowledge I could be wrong. Whether or not a god or gods exist is simply more than any human knows.
I certainly don't feel there is a specific deity or gods-pantheon we can point to (Yahweh, the Norse or Greek gods, et al.) and say "Ah. This god is real, and you can read this god's biography in the holy texts of this or that culture." That's nonsense, though I think most cultures' scriptures contain beauty, wisdom and philosophical truth.
At base, I suppose I most identify as an apathetic agnostic.
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Hold your fire, Pet. I think Griff is on our side (Theistic evolution). I could be wrong.
