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No, it precludes the government from making tax law applicable to religions.
More precisely, it precludes the government from making tax laws that restrain the practice of religion, and that's the tough part of this: Tax law doesn't do that. The exemption from taxes is a legacy and one that isn't really supportable by law. The OP is positing that the level of justice with regard to this matter will increase soon. I see no reason to necessarily believe that, but make no mistake, it would objectively be an increase in justice.
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After all, who are better to explain what is meant than the men who wrote it?
That argument doesn't hold water afaic. They're dead. They truly don't matter anymore. The fact that living people today ratify what they said a couple of centuries ago - that's what matters today.
The FRFF (Freedom From Religion Foundation) wrote the [URL="https://www.dropbox.com/s/9pbc571m44sbh59/Cornerstone%20Christian%20Academy%2C%20WA%20-%20superintendent%20endorses%20local%20politician. pdf?dl=0"]following letter to the IRS [/URL]about a Christian Academy superintendent in Vancouver, WA endorsing a county candidate. The Academy has 501(c)(3) status, and as such, is restricted from making those types of endorsements.
The FRFF sued the IRS to uphold the law restricting such politicking, and in a 2014 settlement, the IRS agreed that they would start.
The agreement here:
[url=http://ffrf.org/news/news-releases/item/20968-ffrf-irs-settle-suit-over-church-politicking]FFRF, IRS settle suit over church politicking - Freedom From Religion Foundation[/url]
Religious organizations need to understand... they CAN NOT promote or endorse candidates. Period. They think because they got away with it for years, that they still can. Oh, I'm sure there will be a lot of squealing and complaining, but the 1st Amendment is pretty clear, as are the court cases.
Listen for yourself if you care, and see how clearly this man says he represents his Academy.
The only violation would be singling out religious tax exempt groups for special treatment on way or the other. That's not happening, but giving them a blank check to violate tax law would be.
I find discussion of this a bit academic. If the initiative is without force, it won't go through. If it has, it might and as the title said, expect more of it, and posting here about why law made last century isn't valid now - if it doesn't suit you - or wailing persecution if you can't infringe the rights of others using religion as a pretext, won't make a bit of difference.
Especially the complicated wrangle about what the Constitution says, when the law and courts have decided time and again what it says.
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More precisely, it precludes the government from making tax laws that restrain the practice of religion, and that's the tough part of this: Tax law doesn't do that. The exemption from taxes is a legacy and one that isn't really supportable by law. The OP is positing that the level of justice with regard to this matter will increase soon. I see no reason to necessarily believe that, but make no mistake, it would objectively be an increase in justice.
That argument doesn't hold water afaic. They're dead. They truly don't matter anymore. The fact that living people today ratify what they said a couple of centuries ago - that's what matters today.
Do you take that perspective on the entire Constitution?
Do you take that perspective on the entire Constitution?
The US Constitution takes that perspective on the entire US Constitution:
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The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. ... The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority...
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... amendments, which ... shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the several states, or by conventions in three fourths thereof...
The founders are not currently granted a vote in any of these proceedings.
what's the title of this thread? have the IRS audit churches that preach politics (connection being 501c3 status).
Non-religious 501c3 organizations are also not allowed to endorse political candidates or lobby.
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