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Old 08-17-2016, 01:16 PM
 
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I think the minutia of voting on every single issue would be impossible. At some point you need to empower people to make decisions on behalf of people. Look at the current state of our people. How many people do you think even know the basic issues? Watch an old episode of Jay Leno's "Jay Walking" and you'll find out that people don't know the basics of American government.

People have proven that they're just not willing to educate themselves on the basic issues. Heck..most people actually think the GOP hates women and minorities...when it was the DNC that rigged an election for an old white woman to beat an old white guy. The GOP? They had a black man and 2 hispanics come close to getting nominated. They nominated a woman Veep 8 years ago. But the media has created the image that the ignorant masses are only too willing to go along with.
Of course, not every little thing...the major stuff.
People don't need to know "Government" in a Pure Democracy.
They certainly do know how they want major issues to be.
You can't ever please everyone...so you please the most possible. That's as fair as you can get. No need for "Political Parties"...that's a MAJOR problem with this system.
Not have less than 1000 people....or 9 people...or one person with "Executive Orders", creating the rules everyone has to live by.
Everyone gets a vote...and no one's vote has any more weight than any other. That's what is truly fair IMO.
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Old 08-17-2016, 01:16 PM
 
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I agree the atheist was trying to make a public point. One can argue whether he should have picked that particular battle or not, but there you have it.

On the other hand I can just about guarantee you that Driskell was on a delusional mission from god to "do something" about homosexuality, and was mightily surprised and disappointed at the results. I think you give her too much credit for having many neurons in communication with each other. Given that she's a private party, not a lawyer, and taking on an issue that has been argued about without resolution all over the world since forever, there's quite a bit of megalomania in the picture there. Writing out the thing in longhand is another tip-off. You COULD be right, that she's not whacko and was just trying to score a rim-shot, but I rather doubt it. I've met too many red-faced bellowers like her.
I think both of them learn to live and let live. That's what it really comes down to.
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Old 08-17-2016, 02:28 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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I think both of them learn to live and let live. That's what it really comes down to.
I think one was an attack and the other was to make a point. I don't think they're on the same level in any aspect.
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Old 08-17-2016, 02:38 PM
 
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I think one was an attack and the other was to make a point. I don't think they're on the same level in any aspect.
You really kinda need to understand the individual to know what his point was. This kind of nonsense is very typical of him. He thinks he's the smartest guy in the room and he bullies the rest of the state legislature. He routinely makes attacks like this.
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Old 08-17-2016, 02:43 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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You really kinda need to understand the individual to know what his point was. This kind of nonsense is very typical of him. He thinks he's the smartest guy in the room and he bullies the rest of the state legislature. He routinely makes attacks like this.
Can you give me a link, please?
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Old 08-17-2016, 02:46 PM
 
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Can you give me a link, please?
Of the many numerous things he's done? Do a google search for Ernie Chambers. I'm sure you'll find some articles. He is a career politician that prides himself on being anti-establishment. He was a violent criminal as a young man before entering politics.
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Old 08-17-2016, 02:58 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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Of the many numerous things he's done? Do a google search for Ernie Chambers. I'm sure you'll find some articles. He is a career politician that prides himself on being anti-establishment. He was a violent criminal as a young man before entering politics.
Thanks, I'll put that one on the list.
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Old 08-17-2016, 03:38 PM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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You really kinda need to understand the individual to know what his point was. This kind of nonsense is very typical of him. He thinks he's the smartest guy in the room and he bullies the rest of the state legislature. He routinely makes attacks like this.
I had a quick look and the problem seems to be the misunderstanding of theists to those using their own weapons against them. His suit against God was a response to a lawsuit by a Theist which he thought was frivolous. I won't say how effective this is, but if this all pans out in the end, as i hope and trust, then we can look back and identify in retrospect what were good ideas and bad in winning the campaign.
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