Poll: Why doesn't God prevent terrible things? (worship, Christianity, Adam and Eve)
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This you have still failed to address. Isn't this exactly the description of Heaven, your goal/reward?
Not at all. We will not be mindless drones in heaven. We will still have individuality, roles and different rewards. I have no doubt that that freedom of choice will still exist. After all, Satan and his demons once chose to rebel against God.
However, it is just simply inconceivable that a believer would want to commit a sin in heaven. We will have glorified bodies so gone is the earthly flesh that is tied of the path of sin and death. Second, we have knowledge of sin vs God's glory. It would be pure stupidity to choose the path that leads to death. Third, heaven is a realm for God's children, those who freely chose to love Him and want to serve Him. Heaven's inhabitants will rejoice in singing praises.
Not at all. We will not be mindless drones in heaven. We will still have individuality, roles and different rewards. I have no doubt that that freedom of choice will still exist. After all, Satan and his demons once chose to rebel against God.
However, it is just simply inconceivable that a believer would want to commit a sin in heaven. We will have glorified bodies so gone is the earthly flesh that is tied of the path of sin and death. Second, we have knowledge of sin vs God's glory. It would be pure stupidity to choose the path that leads to death. Third, heaven is a realm for God's children, those who freely chose to love Him and want to serve Him. Heaven's inhabitants will rejoice in singing praises.
Everyone is an Egyptian and first born sons are flesh, God hated Esau because he represented the flesh, but yeah, they deserved death if they Got death, God is a God who judges not me. If Egypt had taken a million slaves and put them to task as slaves, why do you think they were righteous?
Slaves are a blessing from God. Owning slaves does not make one unrighteous.
Not at all. We will not be mindless drones in heaven. We will still have individuality, roles and different rewards. I have no doubt that that freedom of choice will still exist. After all, Satan and his demons once chose to rebel against God.
However, it is just simply inconceivable that a believer would want to commit a sin in heaven. We will have glorified bodies so gone is the earthly flesh that is tied of the path of sin and death. Second, we have knowledge of sin vs God's glory. It would be pure stupidity to choose the path that leads to death. Third, heaven is a realm for God's children, those who freely chose to love Him and want to serve Him. Heaven's inhabitants will rejoice in singing praises.
Who put us in "earthly flesh" in the first place? Adam and Eve chose the purely stupid path leading to death.
Not at all. We will not be mindless drones in heaven. We will still have individuality, roles and different rewards. I have no doubt that that freedom of choice will still exist. After all, Satan and his demons once chose to rebel against God.
However, it is just simply inconceivable that a believer would want to commit a sin in heaven. We will have glorified bodies so gone is the earthly flesh that is tied of the path of sin and death. Second, we have knowledge of sin vs God's glory. It would be pure stupidity to choose the path that leads to death. Third, heaven is a realm for God's children, those who freely chose to love Him and want to serve Him. Heaven's inhabitants will rejoice in singing praises.
So you're saying (correct me if I'm wrong) that what is different about earth vs heaven is that we currently have "un-glorified" bodies that are subject to corrupting influences and in heaven we would not. This is pretty standard asceticism, the belief that the locus and durability of sin is that it's embedded in the natural world and the physical body and can only be finally conquered by removing people from the physical realm into a realm where sin has no "hold". However by that logic, there is zero reason for god not to do that right now (or long ago really). Why would a benevolent and all powerful god stack the deck in favor of sin by miring his creatures within its grasp?
Slaves are a blessing from God. Owning slaves does not make one unrighteous.
Not amongst Isreali's it wasn't but I would not look at any other slavery as I look at slavery amongst Hebrews. Taking a Hebrew servant was a salvation to the slave and when their 7 years were up, they didn't often want to leave the master's house, but that was not the case with Israel in slavery for decades under a cruel task master, the bible shows them being extreemly cruel
So you're saying (correct me if I'm wrong) that what is different about earth vs heaven is that we currently have "un-glorified" bodies that are subject to corrupting influences and in heaven we would not. This is pretty standard asceticism, the belief that the locus and durability of sin is that it's embedded in the natural world and the physical body and can only be finally conquered by removing people from the physical realm into a realm where sin has no "hold". However by that logic, there is zero reason for god not to do that right now (or long ago really). Why would a benevolent and all powerful god stack the deck in favor of sin by miring his creatures within its grasp?
The introduction of sin into the physical realm put a death curse on all living things. Everything begins to die as soon as it lives. In order for God to purge out all of that curse then the door of opportunity is shut on humanity to get saved. God is holding back His great purge so as many people as possible will get to experience eternal life.
Not amongst Isreali's it wasn't but I would not look at any other slavery as I look at slavery amongst Hebrews. Taking a Hebrew servant was a salvation to the slave and when their 7 years were up, they didn't often want to leave the master's house,
Of course Uncle Tom didn't want to leave Massa!
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but that was not the case with Israel in slavery for decades under a cruel task master, the bible shows them being extreemly cruel
The introduction of sin into the physical realm put a death curse on all living things. Everything begins to die as soon as it lives. In order for God to purge out all of that curse then the door of opportunity is shut on humanity to get saved. God is holding back His great purge so as many people as possible will get to experience eternal life.
What silliness.
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