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So you believe man evolved from primates and was not created? Because that is the crux of the issue. I have no problem believing small changes can happen within a species. I have a problem believing that God is not the author of human life.
I believe we are primates. God is the author of all life. No, I don't buy the Garden of Eden explanation.
I believe we are primates. God is the author of all life. No, I don't buy the Garden of Eden explanation.
So you claim to be a Christian yet you are anti-Bible and now don't even believe God created man. I'm finding it hard to see anything you believe that is different from atheists. No wonder you praise them.
If you reject Genesis then you might as well reject the cruxification which is foretold in Genesis.
So you claim to be a Christian yet you are anti-Bible and now don't even believe God created man. I'm finding it hard to see anything you believe that is different from atheists. No wonder you praise them.
If you reject Genesis then you might as well reject the cruxification which is foretold in Genesis.
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So you claim to be a Christian yet you are anti-Bible and now don't even believe God created man. I'm finding it hard to see anything you believe that is different from atheists. No wonder you praise them.
If you reject Genesis then you might as well reject the cruxification which is foretold in Genesis.
Are you referring to Genesis 3:15?
Better do some real bible study, Jeff. Why? Because even if one accepts the words as you know them, it is as vague as any Nostradamus 'prophecy'.
The Latin Vulgate version of the Old Testament has a horrible translation in Genesis 3:15. It changes the pronoun from the masculine his to the feminine. This translation gave wrongful support for the claims concerning a future virgin birth.
Your WRONG Jeff as you are basing your information on a bad translation, not on what was written.
So you claim to be a Christian yet you are anti-Bible and now don't even believe God created man. I'm finding it hard to see anything you believe that is different from atheists. No wonder you praise them.
If you reject Genesis then you might as well reject the crucifixion which is foretold in Genesis.
("cruxification" corrected. No need to thank me) Now, this is a very interesting discussion. It is essentially "Liberal Christian", incorporating Theistic evolution, vs. Genesis literalist Christian incorporating I presume taking all the absurdities of talking snakes and donkeys, mobile stars and shekel -eating fish as factual.
For me, any Christian who maintains a faith in God and a Jesus sent by God to save us is a Christian, even if they don't believe that a god who couldn't beat Iron Chariots could stop the earth rotating so the battle could go into extra time. For Jeff, apparently they are not, unless they believe such absurdities.Well, Jeff?
("cruxification" corrected. No need to thank me) Now, this is a very interesting discussion. It is essentially "Liberal Christian", incorporating Theistic evolution, vs. Genesis literalist Christian incorporating I presume taking all the absurdities of talking snakes and donkeys, mobile stars and shekel -eating fish as factual.
For me, any Christian who maintains a faith in God and a Jesus sent by God to save us is a Christian, even if they don't believe that a god who couldn't beat Iron Chariots could stop the earth rotating so the battle could go into extra time. For Jeff, apparently they are not, unless they believe such absurdities.Well, Jeff?
Any "Christian" who rejects the Bible has no foundation for their faith. So they can make up any perverted version of the gospel that they want. This is why we see swingers groups having church, and without the Bible, you have no right to claim their lifestyle is wrong.
The absurdities that you mention are very minor in the Bible, and only represent your own supernatural bias and narrowed minded "perception always equals reality" mentality. Also, not many Christians out there take the Bible at 100% literal value. Metaphors and other type of language are in play.
So you claim to be a Christian yet you are anti-Bible and now don't even believe God created man. I'm finding it hard to see anything you believe that is different from atheists. No wonder you praise them.
If you reject Genesis then you might as well reject the cruxification which is foretold in Genesis.
It's possible to believe in a god without being a fundamentalist Christian. For example, 1.6 billion Muslims do so every day.
Any "Christian" who rejects the Bible has no foundation for their faith. .
They can pick and choose those portions of the Bible which they find relevant to sustaining a faith while rejecting other parts. E.g., someone may view the Garden of Eden story as a metaphorical explanation of humans coming into existence, while simultaneously embracing the Sermon on the Mount as a proper guide by which to live.
And why not? All Christians do this to one degree or another. I do not know any modern Christians who demand that every single law found in Leviticus must be applied to modern living. If you took it all as absolute authority which must be followed, you would be out stoning blasphemers and harlots, avoiding the consumption of non cud chewing, non divided hoof animals, and never touching seafood which does not have scales and fins. You would not wear clothing with mixed fabrics (better check the label of your shirt), and you would always stand in the presence of elders.
Do you follow all those rules? If not, then you are rejecting the Bible in no less a manner than those you condemn for not embracing it all.
Any "Christian" who rejects the Bible has no foundation for their faith.
They have Jesus, jeff. You are essentially rejecting the New Covenant instituted by Christ.
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It is essentially "Liberal Christian", incorporating Theistic evolution, vs. Genesis literalist Christian incorporating I presume taking all the absurdities of talking snakes and donkeys, mobile stars and shekel -eating fish as factual. 
