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In your view, he seems to be impressed with the actions of one sinful human being but not another.
Really? You're going to tell me my view of God? How very amusing. Is the theory you'll take a wild guess in hopes you can call my personal beliefs about God wrong?
Because I've no idea what you're talking about. God gets impressed? Hmmmm....is he impressed when you mock LGBTQ? How does that work in your version of Christianity?
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You're right. If he trusted Christ before he died, he's in the presence of God now. He is innocent and clean in God's eyes.
He was a horrible, horrible person. But compared to God, you and I are no better. It's like trying to hold a candle up to sun in comparison and claiming to be full of light. Your light, however bright it may be in a dark room is nothing compared to the sun.
So no..I don't care to try again. I was right the first time. You, on the other hand, have a very very small view of God.
How can a person responsible for the torture and death of 6 million Jews, ever, in any context be thought of as innocent and clean?
You and I are no better than Hitler? Speak for yourself Vizio. I'm gonna say with 100% certainty I'm better than Hitler.
Worm food, Vizio. That is all we become. And that is a good thing, not a bad thing.
Good thing? Becoming worm food? While I'm realistic and recognize that this is our fate, I can't bring myself around to aspiring for it. My notion is that walking around on the earth beats being being under it. Everything dies and I don't expect to be the exception, but I'm not thrilled about it.
Because, if he trusted Jesus, He is not guilty of those things -- Jesus would be. Jesus was punished on the cross in his place.
Relatively speaking, yes. We are both wooooooorlds better. But in the absolute, infinite holiness of God? We're not.
Hmm. 6 million Jews versus one guy on a cross. I'm gonna say that's not exactly well balanced.
I can just imagine Hitler in his dying hour... "Oh darn, it I ordered the suffering and murder of 6 million Jews, now I'm going to be punished. Maybe if I accept Jesus I will go to heaven, after all he died on a cross...oh. wait"
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Good thing? Becoming worm food? While I'm realistic and recognize that this is our fate, I can't bring myself around to aspiring for it. My notion is that walking around on the earth beats being being under it. Everything dies and I don't expect to be the exception, but I'm not thrilled about it.
Well, I never said I wanted to become worm food any time soon, but that is irrelevant. We all die, it is a matter of when.
When we do, what better way than becoming part of the natural cycle? Why even consider the toxic mix of embalming fluids or the waste of fuel and carbon emissions if one takes the incinerated route? What better way but becoming part of the whole, that our atoms that constitute our bodies that once were star dust can now play a role in the earth's life cycle, until it and we all become star dust again when our sun explodes?
We are in the universe, we are part of the universe and, most of important, it is part of us. No artificial constructs like woo religion required. Science and real, but oh so very spiritual. Reality is so much better than fairy tales.
So yes, I am glad in the knowledge that I will become worm food. How much better an eternal existence than that is started then?
Because, if he trusted Jesus, He is not guilty of those things -- Jesus would be. Jesus was punished on the cross in his place.
Quite a disingenuous loop hole you guys love to cling to. No matter what you do as long as you believe then you are not responsible or accountable for your heinousness actions.
That's not the way it works no matter how much you want to believe it does.
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