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I find it amazing to watch society evolve. What used to be called "good" is no longer good, but is seen as bad, and perhaps as a mental disorder, but things that were called "bad", or mental disorders a generation ago are now celebrated. Welcome to the new world order.
Yeah.
Slavery used to be good. Used to be able to rape your wife with impunity. Pedophilia was hushed up. Could burn crosses and lynch darkies. Children died of whooping cough, TB, Polio or an infected cut. And best of all, gays were way too terrified to come out of the closet.
Maybe they were your "good" days but they weren't for women, non-whites or children.
Oh absolutely sobering! What frightens me is that they are allowed to vote.
I think it's scary that anyone is allowed to vote! No matter who we are, we aren't exactly well-known for making decisions that aren't affected by personal biases. It is rare to have a vote cast for reasons other than "how will this liar benefit me" or "at least it ain't that OTHER guy or gal!"
Give me a benevolent dictatorship any day.... the long dreamed-of philosopher king!
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I find it amazing to watch society evolve. What used to be called "good" is no longer good, but is seen as bad, and perhaps as a mental disorder, but things that were called "bad", or mental disorders a generation ago are now celebrated. Welcome to the new world order.
GLDNRULE, There is no reasonable person who feels that the burden of proof of a claim lies on someone who hasn't made the claim. Those who claim a deity exists - the burden of proof lies on them.
Non-believers have no obligation whatsoever to make the slightest effort whatsoever to disprove something that has not been proven in the first place.
Yes, this is true....as far as "The Burden of Proof"...that obligation is upon the one making the "extraordinary", "remarkable", or "new" claim. All things being equal.
BUT!!
"God Exists" has been sooooooo prolific, for sooooooo long...it is considered a "Standard of Human Understanding".
When a concept reaches a "saturation point" that is to such a degree that it is considered to be "The Standard"...a position that deviates from that would be the "extraordinary/remarkable/new claim" that will have to prove itself against the long established standard.
When you are contesting the "Existing Worldwide Standard"...that's a toooooootally different story.
Belief in God has been the "norm" (8to9 out of 10) for THOOOOOOOUSANDS of years. It's the "incumbent position"...the "ruling viewpoint"...the "champion concept"!
That concept does not have to prove itself...it currently "holds office"! It's upon the weak challenger (Atheism) of nearly negligible merit/influence to prove itself. But, so far it's gotten steamrolled and flattened, in every "race". If it were seen as an "election"...Atheism would be viewed as being defeated in the biggest landslide EVER.
It's actually a joke that the insignificant pipsqueak Challenger with a 1W-9L record would have the nerve to "call out" the REEEEEEEIGNING, AND DEFENNNNNNDING, UNNNNNN-DE-FEATED, CHAAAAAAAM-PI-OOOOOOON CONNNNNNNCEPT, OOOOOOF THE WORRRRRRRLD...and demand it "prove" itself. LOL!
And anyone can blow off with all the "ad Pop/Logical Fallacy" rebuttals they want...but the Atheist viewpoint STILL won't ever do anything but get trounced in the Arena of World Merit.
Also, before anyone gets all mentally irregular...I hold Atheism in higher regard, and view it as superior, to most concepts...and certainly above all organized religious dogma. I'm just pointing out the REALITY as to what "The Way Of The World" is.
Thus, my example of Galileo...who had to prove his claim...even though it was a true claim against a false claim. A "standard" already existed.
De-evolves rather. A society built on the foundation of immorality will not stand.
The USA was (and is) built on racism, slavery, genocide, and exploitation. And yet the USA has stood for over 200 years.
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No matter who we are, we aren't exactly well-known for making decisions that aren't affected by personal biases. It is rare to have a vote cast for reasons other than "how will this liar benefit me" or "at least it ain't that OTHER guy or gal!"
