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Old 12-24-2016, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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Good try, buddy. I can assure you... I ain't delusional.
If you believe that angels are real then you must be!!!


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O/T. Christmas greetings from the other Valencia in the good ole' USA.
You copy everything!

 
Old 12-24-2016, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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If you believe that angels are real then you must be!!!

You copy everything!
There is no such thing as Angels with wings. Rather, it's a state of higher soul development... becoming Divine through the transformation of God's Divine Love. It's really a term of endearment.

Once a spirit, always a spirit. The "Angels" are the highest spirits, and their souls are more purified, ethereal and their appearance is more beautiful than spirits in the lower spheres.

All Angels were once humans. Maybe even you will become one.
 
Old 12-24-2016, 10:34 AM
 
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Yet you no doubt claim to have a personal relationship with him.
Your point? He also chose to insert himself into Creation, by being born of a woman.
 
Old 12-24-2016, 10:36 AM
 
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There is no such thing as Angels with wings. Rather, it's a state of higher soul development... becoming Divine through the transformation of God's Divine Love. It's really a term of endearment.

Once a spirit, always a spirit. The "Angels" are the highest spirits, and their souls are more purified, ethereal and their appearance is more beautiful than spirits in the lower spheres.

All Angels were once humans. Maybe even you will become one.
Did you know the Bible says differently? Do you care?
 
Old 12-24-2016, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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Your point?
If you didn't get it the first time then explaining it won't help.

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He also chose to insert himself into Creation, by being born of a woman.
Allegedly...and what a ridiculous story that is..
 
Old 12-24-2016, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Third heaven? Have you been reading Joseph Smith again?

The answer for those who want to have a beginning for God is found in the realization that TIME is a man made construct and we want everything top fit in a time line.

With God, there is NO TIME, so we try to rationally explain this idea of time when it is really our pea-brains trying to grasp INFINITY.
I agree.

The third heaven is a location, the abode of God.

https://www.gotquestions.org/where-is-Heaven.html
 
Old 12-24-2016, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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How does someone operating inside time and space have a personal relationship with someone operating outside time and space?
I don't see the problem. God the Father is in the third heaven; God the Son is seated next to Him, awaiting His return; God the Spirit indwells all believers and seeks after non-believers.
 
Old 12-24-2016, 11:04 AM
 
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Did you know the Bible says differently? Do you care?
Yep. God has never been a human. The story of a virgin Mary is a myth.

Truth for all people - Mary writes that Jesus was the natural son of Joseph and Mary

Jesus was "of God" because he prayed for and received in his soul that which is "of God"... His Divine Love. His soul was infused completely with this Love. He was never God and never claimed to be God, as some in the Bible profess. If Jesus was God, why would he say this?

John 16:28

"I came forth from the Father and have come into the world; I am leaving the world again and going to the Father."
 
Old 12-24-2016, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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I don't see the problem.
No...you wouldn't.
 
Old 12-24-2016, 11:36 AM
 
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No...you wouldn't.
I was sure you couldn't explain it.
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