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1. You don't get to God through a flowchart. You get to God through your heart.
2. If you are sincere in seeking answers to the questions in the flowchart, then how about praying for 20- 30 minutes a day for the next several months.
What's stopping you from doing that?
I have no need to talk to myself nor listen to pretend voices in my head. Do you?
Now, if you want to discuss meditation, that is useful. Always.
So ask the questions in meditation, which is....talking to yourself and listening to pretend voices in your head.
No, no, no. If your hearing voices in your head while meditating, you are doing it all wrong! One of the goals is to empty your head of all thought. Get to know your body. Then connect with the outside and nature. It is part of us, and we are part of it. We are part of the whole, and the whole is part of us.
You may call that god. But it's not sentient or anthropomorphic. It just is. It's much more freeing not to be constrained by rigid ancient teachings.
No, no, no. If your hearing voices in your head while meditating, you are doing it all wrong! One of the goals is to empty your head of all thought. Get to know your body. Then connect with the outside and nature. It is part of us, and we are part of it. We are part of the whole, and the whole is part of us.
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And yet other people experience meditation differently. Why is their perspective different? How do we know that your way is the correct way and you are not just imagining it?
And you do realize that "We are part of the whole, and the whole is part of us" is a well known prayer. So you are praying in the same way people have for thousands of years.
That would be the imaginary pretend voices in your head then that Dillon mentioned in post #53.
You misunderstood.
You don't hear any voices...when you complete the mediation and come back to your normal awake state, you have intuitive wisdom and answers.
I highly recommend you seek out how to achieve deep meditative states...you will free your mind and soul from the shackles of religion.
It requires a lot more work then just sitting there praying. While the main purpose of prayer may be to help others, it never demonstrably does that.
It's a sad affair when people toss out the term "oh just pray for them" vs. actually getting up off of their duff and actually doing something to help.
Prayers benefit only those who believe that just merely praying is the all that's required. Prayer gives these types comfort. It allows them to falsely think that they have some control over a situation that may be out of their hands. It's usually the last resort of people who have run out of ideas, and the first resort of people who never bothered to think about how they could actually fix the problem at hand.
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