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Old 01-19-2017, 03:07 PM
 
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The name of the True God, as pronounced in English, is Jehovah, That is all you need to know.

It is one of those conundrums of the human race where they will accept that Jesus, as we know him, may never have heard that name, he would have been called Yeshua or Yeshoshua, it is uncertain which was used, but it would not have been Jesus. However, there is no arguments back and forth as to the identity of Jesus, but Jehovah is debated back and forth endlessly.

The KJV took all reference to God's name out of its version of the Bible, and replaced it with the confusing additives of Lord, God, and a few other non-descriptive names. The English version of God's son's name was kept....A bit odd, don't you think?

It becomes boring after all this time.
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Old 01-19-2017, 03:26 PM
 
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Ok, since the Creator's Name can not be spoken...it was before tongues and voice boxes and even flesh were imagined , let alone created, yet, still was and still is a sound....resonating throughout all the dimensions and within the essence of all...

I would like to give a pretty darn clear example to help...
Can you imitate the sound of a wave crashing on the beach? No, not exactly.

So what can you do? Well, ....you could make sounds with your mouth...say...
'Ahhhhh-roooooooosh'...maybe...'wooooooshhhh-shhhhahhhhhhh'.

Well, guess what...YHWH is an 'imitation' of the sound that can not
be spoken with the human mouth.


God's Holy Name or Sat Nam is unspeakable...now it is up to you to find out what it is ...
then, what is it?

What is this 'thing' we are not to take in vain? What is this Name that is to be hallowed?

It certainly is not taught in Western Christian Churches or Sunday School!!!

Later we can talk about Abraham's name being changed to Ahhhhh- braaaaam...why?
Hear the sound....similar to to wave or the breath? It could have been
Brahhhhm- ahhhhhh...inhale or exhale...same thing. In or out.
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Old 01-19-2017, 03:46 PM
 
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The name of the True God, as pronounced in English, is Jehovah, That is all you need to know.

It is one of those conundrums of the human race where they will accept that Jesus, as we know him, may never have heard that name, he would have been called Yeshua or Yeshoshua, it is uncertain which was used, but it would not have been Jesus. However, there is no arguments back and forth as to the identity of Jesus, but Jehovah is debated back and forth endlessly.

The KJV took all reference to God's name out of its version of the Bible, and replaced it with the confusing additives of Lord, God, and a few other non-descriptive names. The English version of God's son's name was kept....A bit odd, don't you think?

It becomes boring after all this time.
If anything it would be Yehowah...
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Old 01-19-2017, 07:29 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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If anything it would be Yehowah...
ye(ya)-ho(hu)-haah
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Old 01-20-2017, 05:28 PM
 
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^I read this on a couple message boards too.

Hebrew H according to Joel Hoffman a Hebrew professor was special as a vowel and says it was unique to Hebrew in writing. Not sure he is right though.

It is breathed, and in the Tanakh God "breathes" life into people.
Wind and Spirit are the same words in Hebrew, BTW.
On somewhat irrelevant but, also, relevant note.
Human vocal apparatus can not pronounce consonants without vowels. No matter how hard you try. Every consonant pronounced is spoken on a vowel background. This is why when I was in my year of phonetics, professor straight told us to not even try to vocalize a consonant per se, but use vowel "a", pronounced as "a" in a-rt, for any consonant. Ba, Va, ka, and so on. For clarity of verbalization.
Canonically, name of god is ineffable and can not be pronounced. What makes very simple sense. It's god's name, not some Jimmy Jones. It is mark, quintessence of god, so one who can pronounce it can control who the name belongs to.
This is why YHWH is not true god's name anyway.
Canonically, as YHWH, or the true 'god" is both beginnings, male and female, it requires a male and female voice at synagogue to verbalize it.
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Old 01-20-2017, 08:20 PM
 
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ye(ya)-ho(hu)-haah
But not Jehovah...
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Old 01-20-2017, 09:12 PM
 
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But not Jehovah...
Not even a yehovah. It's all Greek to me.
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Old 01-21-2017, 09:26 PM
 
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Not even a yehovah. It's all Greek to me.
Are you sure???....I mean maybe you haven't had proper education in biblical Hebrew like all the Christians have?...
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Old 01-21-2017, 09:42 PM
 
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Are you sure???....I mean maybe you haven't had proper education in biblical Hebrew like all the Christians have?...
Knowing biblical Hebrew at the time would have have helped at the time if the Greeks didn't impose their grammar system as a better template than Hebrew grammar.
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Old 01-23-2017, 02:42 AM
 
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Knowing biblical Hebrew at the time would have have helped at the time if the Greeks didn't impose their grammar system as a better template than Hebrew grammar.
How can you be so sure?...
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