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Old 07-06-2018, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Germany
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Yes the TF is a christian interpolation. The James passage however is historically accurate.

Thus there is historical truth in Josephus, but he must be read with a critical eye.
No, the James passage is a grammatical bad dream, and more likely to be a later scribal 'correction'.
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Old 07-06-2018, 11:49 AM
 
Location: USA
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No, the James passage is a grammatical bad dream, and more likely to be a later scribal 'correction'.

"Yes the TF is a christian interpolation. The James passage however is historically accurate.

Thus there is historical truth in Josephus, but he must be read with a critical eye."

None of that quote was written by me. I would like to point out however, that the oldest existing copies of Josephus are from 1,000 years after the time of Josephus.
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Old 07-06-2018, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Germany
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"Yes the TF is a christian interpolation. The James passage however is historically accurate.

Thus there is historical truth in Josephus, but he must be read with a critical eye."

None of that quote was written by me. I would like to point out however, that the oldest existing copies of Josephus are from 1,000 years after the time of Josephus.
Sorry, yes, that was a failed quote from pneuma, and I edited it wrong.

We had a grill this evening and I was getting ready to drink a beir or three.
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Old 07-07-2018, 12:25 AM
 
Location: Canada
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An assertion you invented because you do not want to admit that at least over 94% of it's use in the NT means eternal. So you make up excuses and then run away.



Yes, you was totally destroyed, and now you are using ad hominem to avoid addressing any of the points raised.
lol everyone reading that thread seen how you tucked tail and ran as fast as you could.



what points? you mean all that unsubstantiated crap you sprouted, that might be enough of a meal for trout but I like a little more meat in my meal.
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Old 07-07-2018, 12:38 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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lol everyone reading that thread seen how you tucked tail and ran as fast as you could.



what points? you mean all that unsubstantiated crap you sprouted, that might be enough of a meal for trout but I like a little more meat in my meal.
I didn't see that.
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Old 07-07-2018, 01:17 AM
 
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I didn't see that.
which goes to show everyone see only what they want to.
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Old 07-07-2018, 01:30 AM
 
Location: Germany
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lol everyone reading that thread seen how you tucked tail and ran as fast as you could.
You mean the thread where Clement did not know what was in the link he posted, so was confused about what I was talking about? At least Clement put some work in, you just went in denial mode.

The thread where I explained a rule of grammar of the language I am allegedly ignorant of?

The thread where you are so ignorant of Greek you ended up arguing for a god that is not eternal?

That thread?

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what points? you mean all that unsubstantiated crap you sprouted, that might be enough of a meal for trout but I like a little more meat in my meal.
You can attempt to refute it, or you can run away.

Your choice.
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Old 07-07-2018, 02:36 AM
 
Location: Canada
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You mean the thread where Clement did not know what was in the link he posted, so was confused about what I was talking about? At least Clement put some work in, you just went in denial mode.

The thread where I explained a rule of grammar of the language I am allegedly ignorant of?

The thread where you are so ignorant of Greek you ended up arguing for a god that is not eternal?

That thread?



You can attempt to refute it, or you can run away.

Your choice.
refute what? your unsubstantiated crap.

Do you even know what unsubstantiated means? I already know you have a problem understanding the meaning of words but good grief grab a dictionary.
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Old 07-07-2018, 03:08 AM
 
Location: Germany
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refute what? your unsubstantiated crap.

Do you even know what unsubstantiated means? I already know you have a problem understanding the meaning of words but good grief grab a dictionary.
Yes, it means not backed up by evidence. Yet I provided that evidence, so clearly you are inventing excuses to avoid refuting what you can not.

I know, you spent three months fishing Christian web sites, only for someone in one afternoon to add evidence you missed out, refuting ALL your claims.

So once again you avoid the issue, just as you did with the 71 NT passages on the other thread (which hopefully I can return to once I have enough free time).

But the evidence is there for those honest enough to look.
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Old 07-07-2018, 04:07 AM
 
Location: WV and Eastport, ME
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Knock off the personal stabs at each other and discuss the topic. Otherwise, the thread will have to be closed.
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