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Old 02-13-2017, 07:39 PM
 
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However you actively peddle your own brand of bigotry. Here is the definition of bigot

"a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions."

My observation is you and others are utterly intolerant of those who decline to attend a wedding for religious reasons.

Again I am pointing out the double standard. Your posts scream holier than thou.
You did not refuse his life event due to finances, or illness. You did not attend because your personal integrity is more important than his wedding. It reveals you. You then decided it was for religious reasons. You then decided your comfort was more important that his wedding.

Your words. Your actions.

Holier that thou? Hahahahaha. . Me thinks I must be standing on a pedestal of Jello. .

I happen to believe my family is the most important part of my life. I am bless with a loving family, and we happen to enjoy each other. I love them unconditionally. You might try it sometime.

There is no, I love you but...

God loves me without condition. My children deserve no less from me.
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Old 02-13-2017, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Anderson, IN
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I did not disown my son. I have a close loving relationship with him. He knows that people can disagree and express disapproval and those are not a measure or indicator of love.
My point is that you seem to be dismissing the fact that parents can cause irreparable harm to their children
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Old 02-13-2017, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Anderson, IN
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It's easy to see from this thread those who are spiritually and ethically evolved and those who are not.

Thanks Ronkon, Dew, L8, geeki, zthatz and Pleroo et al for demonstrating the empathy achieved by - indeed required of - the truly evolved.

Thanks also to David Stone, Ceece and Tzaph for so clearly demonstrating its lack.
Thank you Trout. Still shedding my vestigial tail but I'm getting there lol.
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Old 02-13-2017, 07:49 PM
 
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My point is that you seem to be dismissing the fact that parents can cause irreparable harm to their children
and vice versa
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Old 02-13-2017, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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My point is that you seem to be dismissing the fact that parents can cause irreparable harm to their children
That would require her looking into a mirror without flinching.

Won't happen.

It takes courage. As you well know, geeki.
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Old 02-13-2017, 07:59 PM
 
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My point is that you seem to be dismissing the fact that parents can cause irreparable harm to their children
And I would invite you as an adult to tend to the healing around painful wounds and stop being a victim blaming others. Your healing is your responsibility. I have no idea how old you are but there is nothing healthy joyful or vibrant about being 40 or 50 or 60 years old and still bemoaning and blaming your parents. You can wallow in pain or you can tend to your own healing and get on with your joyful life. Nobody can do it for you. Nobody can do it except you.

Here's a place to start. There is no such thing as irreparable harm. Get into a 12 step program like Al-Anon and start working a strong program of recovery.

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Old 02-13-2017, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Townsville
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Rest assured all members of the Stone family...kids and grand kids.........agree with my stance and beliefs .
Well, you offered up the Sodom and Gomorrah story as the 'evidence' that I asked for re the biblical stance against gay marriage. That you, all members of the Stone family, your kids and grand-kids don't know that the S&G saga has nothing to do with the topic at hand is certainly nothing to brag about. You and your loyal family don't appear to be aware that NOWHERE in ANY scriptural mention of Sodom and Gomorrah (and there are quite a few) is homosexuality even alluded to.

As I've already mentioned, there IS a thread on the forum that specifically deals with S&G if you care to seek it out. And, you perhaps should. You might learn something!
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Old 02-13-2017, 08:12 PM
 
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Rest assured all members of the Stone family...kids and grand kids.........agree with my stance and beliefs .
If you want to tell the internet that you're entire family believes gays are all sinners headed to hell...you get to do that. The Phelps family believes the same thing!
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Old 02-13-2017, 08:19 PM
 
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It's easy to see from this thread those who are spiritually and ethically evolved and those who are not.

Thanks Ronkon, Dew, L8, geeki, zthatz and Pleroo et al for demonstrating the empathy achieved by - indeed required of - the truly evolved.

Thanks also to David Stone, Ceece and Tzaph for so clearly demonstrating its lack.
I cannot keep my personal integrity if I do not support and have compassion for the LGBTQ community.

Their lives are made unnecessarily difficult by religious extremists. I look forward to the day the LGBTQ community is no longer subject to the prejudices of people who use the Bible (or any other book) to excuse their bigotry.
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Old 02-13-2017, 08:27 PM
 
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When parents disown their children of any age (regardless of how old I get, I will always be my Mother's child) it causes pain that you likely can't fathom. I invite you to engage with members of the LGBTQ community, and share our experiences and listen to our stories. I am one of those children disowned by parents after coming out to them. I am transgender. Yes, it does hurt. More than you can imagine. Believe what you will, but do not dismiss the pain of others just because you can't understand how that can be hurtful.
I'm so sorry. I was never able to have children, and it's circumstances such as these that break my heart. I would never, ever, ever not love and accept my child because of their sexual orientation. No child deserves that. Hugs to you, dear.
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