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Old 02-13-2017, 05:26 PM
 
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the original 1939 movie? Guess you ought to read the book?
I was surprised how many books there were on Oz. I remember working in a library and there were several, if not 10 or so books by Baum on Oz.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Oz_books

I remember taking a few courses in Literature and Short Story and the teacher would pick apart a book until even I wasn't sure what the plot of the book was versus his myriad of interpretations.
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Old 02-13-2017, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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The irony of this thread is that back in the days of network only TV, the Wizard of Oz only came on once a year. It seemed like it was a Sunday night in February, and every fundamentalist kid in the USA waged epic war with their folks to try to get to be able to skip Sunday night church service and watch it.
We must be in the same ballpark, age-wise. I recall it coming on once a year around Easter. Margaret Hamilton and her flying monkeys scared the bejezzuz out of me as a youngster.

Even more so when we got a colour TV and saw that magical transformation from B&W to glorious Technicolour!
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Old 02-13-2017, 10:23 PM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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Oh, I don't know about that. That potato was made. It was the result of countless generations of selective breeding, It was planted, almost certainly lavished with water and fertilizer, and harvested. It wasn't molded but it was made.. we just see the bear because we look for such things - patterns of some sort, be they visual or more abstract.

Besides, as the father of three, I can attest to kids lugging home some creation from pottery class, the intended function of which is a complete and utter mystery!
Lol. Yes, but if it resembled a bear, you could not rule out that it was intended to be one.

Neither was the potato bred to look like a bear - it was bred to be be big, tasty and Intelligently designed to go with battered cod. That it looks like a bear is not - on all reason and experience - the result of anything but coincidence and human tendency to create imaginary patterns where there aren't any.

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Actually, the 1939 version wasn't the original. A full-length silent feature film from the 1920s, as well as a number of shorts, came before the Judy Garland installment.
How about that? I'll have to track that down.
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Old 02-14-2017, 10:51 PM
 
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Well, that's quite possible. But then it's not really what the film is about, it's what people are seeing in the film. I mean, Ferris Bueller's Day Off has been esteemed as a celebration of those who embrace life to its fullest and derided as a testament to the immediate-gratification 1980s. It can't be both. And really, it's neither. It's just a story.
Sometimes a potato ... is just a potato ...
I have often thought that all the deep insights pointed out in Shakespeare's work by well-meaning PhD's of literature would be unrecognizable to Shakespeare himself.
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Old 02-15-2017, 11:19 AM
 
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The actress who played Auntie Em killed herself by taking pills and then tying a bag over her head.
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Old 02-15-2017, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Richardson, TX
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Years ago I recall a lot of discussions that it was a political satire of the time and really nothing to do with religion.

The Wizard of Oz as a satirical allegory of money and politics in 1900
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Old 02-15-2017, 02:37 PM
 
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Years ago I recall a lot of discussions that it was a political satire of the time and really nothing to do with religion.

The Wizard of Oz as a satirical allegory of money and politics in 1900
Since I believe that religion is a reflection and image of society, then that would agree with my original premise.
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Old 02-15-2017, 02:45 PM
 
Location: South Florida
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We must be in the same ballpark, age-wise. I recall it coming on once a year around Easter. Margaret Hamilton and her flying monkeys scared the bejezzuz out of me as a youngster.

Even more so when we got a colour TV and saw that magical transformation from B&W to glorious Technicolour!


Ditto!
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Old 02-15-2017, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Nanaimo, Canada
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Even more so when we got a colour TV and saw that magical transformation from B&W to glorious Technicolour!
The inside of the farmhouse was painted in sepia tones for Dorothy's arrival in Oz, and her stand-in wore a sepia-toned gingham dress; Judy Garland doesn't actually appear in that segment until she steps out of the shadows into the Technicolor lighting.
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Old 02-15-2017, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Years ago I recall a lot of discussions that it was a political satire of the time and really nothing to do with religion.

The Wizard of Oz as a satirical allegory of money and politics in 1900
This is what I always thought too. A protest against moving from the gold standard.
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