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The Exorcist was another hugely popular film. Today, most young moviegoers don't take it seriously. But in the fundamentalist 1970's many people did.
But do you think the message could have been a different one than what is portrayed on the surface? On the surface it shows a "good" church battling an evil demon. It was written by a conservative Catholic writer.
But it also shows that in order for good to prevail, the priest (church) must die.
Another famous scene shows a head turning completely around. An impossible thing to happen without the victim dying. There is only one other case I can think of where someone suffered, and conquered, death.
Is that ability to defeat physical death a "lie" from an enemy that will cause people to believe in something that is impossible? Is the organization which presents that lie to people the antithesis of the person who supposedly inspired that organization two thousand years ago? Physical resurrection was a major belief of the Pharisees.
All the people were forced to worship a beast who had appeared to be healed from a mortal wound. (Revelation 13)
I ahhh.. I'd have to put that in the category of Interpretation. The Obvious Meaning is probably the right one - Satan can do magic, (and only a goddless bastard like me would suspect that the only reason he can is because God allows him to), or even produce mental illusions of stuff that cannot actually happen.
Why he would want to do this is harder to explain, but rather than find subtle interpretations that reverse the apparent message, I'd suggest that it is just a fantasy -fest for hag ridden Catholic who wants to invent a whole hidden world of evil that (as Doug Adams put it) wants to take over the whole world for no good reason, and any more Subtle Interpretation suggest a Projection of what the Catholic Church wants to do, and demonizeS (in a very graphic and and predictable way) anyone who stands in their way.
If you ain't with them, you are against them - and those who are against them are shown to be, if not in league with the most evil stuff this fertile mind can come up with, at least Open to it.
The Exorcist was another hugely popular film. Today, most young moviegoers don't take it seriously. But in the fundamentalist 1970's many people did.
But do you think the message could have been a different one than what is portrayed on the surface? On the surface it shows a "good" church battling an evil demon. It was written by a conservative Catholic writer.
But it also shows that in order for good to prevail, the priest (church) must die.
Another famous scene shows a head turning completely around. An impossible thing to happen without the victim dying. There is only one other case I can think of where someone suffered, and conquered, death.
Is that ability to defeat physical death a "lie" from an enemy that will cause people to believe in something that is impossible? Is the organization which presents that lie to people the antithesis of the person who supposedly inspired that organization two thousand years ago? Physical resurrection was a major belief of the Pharisees.
All the people were forced to worship a beast who had appeared to be healed from a mortal wound. (Revelation 13)
You do know that that movie was not a true story and that the main character in the movie was a male that lived in Brentwood, Maryland and that most of the scenes from the movie was depicted in Mount Rainier and Washington, DC.the Catholic priest as depicted in the movie did not really exist. The young man that the story is about admitted later that it was all a fake basically to get attention and to get out of doing some chores that his parents wanting to do. As he became an adult, he later became an engineer for NASA. Good story but not true.
You do know that that movie was not a true story and that the main character in the movie was a male that lived in Brentwood, Maryland and that most of the scenes from the movie was depicted in Mount Rainier and Washington, DC.the Catholic priest as depicted in the movie did not really exist. The young man that the story is about admitted later that it was all a fake basically to get attention and to get out of doing some chores that his parents wanting to do. As he became an adult, he later became an engineer for NASA. Good story but not true.
I didn't know all of that about the boy. But it wouldn't surprise me. I think that a lot of so-called "possession" is really just young people in rebellion against authority figures (parents, church, etc).
I think that even in the Bible a lot of it was ironic and never meant to be taken seriously, especially the New Testament. Today, if someone had never seen a bipolar person or an epileptic person, they would probably naturally describe them as having an evil spirit if they had never encountered an episode.
Hollywood has its ideas , in reality head turning around is more of a comic trick ....... Then there is the truth of the exorcist which Jesus said .... ``this kind does not come out except by prayer and fasting `` Matthew 17:21 , ..because this person needs to confess Jesus Christ for the judgment of the blood of Jesus to come out faster , so if this person is completely possessed by demons the pray and fasting could work through Christ ........ Demons are real as the works of these spirits of the flesh have filled the jails and hospitals
The Exorcist was another hugely popular film. Today, most young moviegoers don't take it seriously. But in the fundamentalist 1970's many people did.
But do you think the message could have been a different one than what is portrayed on the surface? On the surface it shows a "good" church battling an evil demon. It was written by a conservative Catholic writer.
But it also shows that in order for good to prevail, the priest (church) must die.
Another famous scene shows a head turning completely around. An impossible thing to happen without the victim dying. There is only one other case I can think of where someone suffered, and conquered, death.
Is that ability to defeat physical death a "lie" from an enemy that will cause people to believe in something that is impossible? Is the organization which presents that lie to people the antithesis of the person who supposedly inspired that organization two thousand years ago? Physical resurrection was a major belief of the Pharisees.
All the people were forced to worship a beast who had appeared to be healed from a mortal wound. (Revelation 13)
to me, god wouldn't kill the devil, even if he could, because its part of him.
and ... no sinners, no saints.
period.
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The version shown in the movie, with Roman Catholic priests and crucifixes and Holy Hosts and Holy Water and other Roman Catholic touches, yes.
It's become more of a Protestant ritual since the popularity of the movie in the early 1970's.
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I ahhh.. I'd have to put that in the category of Interpretation. The Obvious Meaning is probably the right one - Satan can do magic, (and only a goddless bastard like me would suspect that the only reason he can is because God allows him to), or even produce mental illusions of stuff that cannot actually happen. 
