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lmao...so there aint multiple denominations with conflicting beliefs all criticizing and condemning each other to hell huh?
In conservative Christianity thee is 100% agreement on the basic doctrines. We do not condemn anyone to hell.
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i cant even talk about how yall pick and choose with the bible you'll probably tell me those christians are wrong and your interpretation is the right one lol
That's right you can't. If you could I wudl answer your ignorant vomment.
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not only that but yall follow a book thats been translated with words taken out and others added in...unless you speak ancient hebrew you cant even validate that book
Now your ignorance of Bible translations, exceeds your ignorance of Christianity. Thank you for exposing it.
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Peter Joseph Mercola, is that you? I call BS on this claim. Sounds like an Alex Jones conspiracy to me.
if its bs...prove that the hebrew alphabet doesnt ultimately come from the medu neter
the first ever hebrew text related to the 'bible' in form of stones was in ancient/paleo hebrew
The Paleo-Hebrew alphabet (Hebrew: הכתב העברי הקדום), also spelt Palaeo-Hebrew alphabet, is a variant of the Phoenician alphabet.[1] Like the Phoenician alphabet, the Paleo-Hebrew alphabet contains 22 letters, all of which are consonants, and is described as an abjad.
Origins
The Phoenician alphabet developed from the Proto-Canaanite alphabet, during the 15th century BC. Before then the Phoenicians wrote with a cuneiform script. The earliest known inscriptions in the Phoenician alphabet come from Byblos and date back to 1000 BC.
Notable features
Type of writing system: abjad / consonant alphabet with no vowel indication
Direction of writing: right to left in hortizontal lines. Sometimes boustrophedon.
The names of the letters are acrophonic, and their names and shapes can be ultimately traced back to Egyptian Hieroglyphs. For example, the name of the first letter, 'aleph, means ox and developed from a picture of an ox's head. Some of the letter names were changed by the Phoenicians, including gimel, which meant camel in Phoenician, but was originally a picture of a throwing stick (giml).
Egyptian hieroglyphic writing does not normally indicate vowels, unlike cuneiform, and for that reason has been labelled by some an abjad alphabet, i.e., an alphabet without vowels.
Ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics can be written both vertically and horizontally. When written vertically, it is from top to bottom.
When written horizontally, it can be both from left to right, or right to left. When reading hieroglyphs, you will need to pay attention to the facing of the hieroglyphic alphabet.
Hieroglyphs emerged from the preliterate artistic traditions of Egypt. For example, symbols on Gerzean pottery from c. 4000 BC have been argued to resemble hieroglyphic writing.[citation needed] Proto-hieroglyphic symbol systems develop in the second half of the 4th millennium BC, such as the clay labels of a Predynastic ruler called "Scorpion I" ( Naqada IIIA period, c. 33rd century BC) recovered at Abydos (modern Umm el-Qa'ab) in 1998
oh look it says what the progenitors of the alphabets are
Some think that the Phoenician alphabet is derived from Egyptian hieroglyphs.[4] It became one of the most widely used writing systems, spread by Phoenician merchants across the Mediterranean world, where it evolved and was assimilated by many other cultures. The Paleo-Hebrew alphabet was directly derived from Phoenician. Another derivative script is the Aramaic alphabet, which was the ancestor of the modern Arabic script. The Modern Hebrew script is a stylistic variant of the Aramaic script. The Greek alphabet (and by extension its descendants, such as Latin, Cyrillic, Runic, and Coptic) was also derived from Phoenician.
new testament - greek....many christians say jesus spoke greek and aramaic or greek and hebrew also
damn lol
@omega and every other christian who disagrees
and thats just the basics....
so yea...christians really dont have a clue lmfaooo
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if its bs...prove that the hebrew alphabet doesnt ultimately come from the medu neter
I searched every single link you posted for "medu neter," and never found a hit, but I guess this means Egyptian hieroglyphs, but even still, everyone knows that all these languages come from one another. The oldest manuscripts are only about 1500 years old, and they're in Hebrew and Aramaic. We do not know what older manuscripts from which these are based were written in. Hebrew could have been developed at a time when the Hebrews lived in or near Egypt.
I searched every single link you posted for "medu neter," and never found a hit, but I guess this means Egyptian hieroglyphs, but even still, everyone knows that all these languages come from one another. The oldest manuscripts are only about 1500 years old, and they're in Hebrew and Aramaic. We do not know what older manuscripts from which these are based were written in. Hebrew could have been developed at a time when the Hebrews lived in or near Egypt.
so all those references that wiki uses for the time periods are false? prove it
The word hieroglyph comes from the Greek adjective ἱερογλυφικός (hieroglyphikos),[6] a compound of ἱερός (hierós 'sacred')[7] and γλύφω (glýphō 'Ι carve, engrave'; see glyph),[8] supposedly a calque of an Egyptian phrase mdw·w-nṯr (medu-netjer) "god's words"
enough proof has been posted...if you wanna deny it then not only are u gonna have to prove that phoenician came after hebrew but also the medu neter since both are progenitors....
show me the oldest manuscript being in hebrew being older than 3000 bc egyptian scripts (3000 is only according to wiki, theres evidence going wayyy back)
theres pyramid texts at around this time but theres no hebrew or aramaic anything anywhere...
there was no mention of any israel god ever in egypt period...so that invalidates the genesis story...not to mention the bible provides no dates or times
and we do know from which they were based....languages dont lie...just like nobody can ever lie that spanish came before latin...all you have to do is a quick history search of the iberian peninsula and the romans and then look at both languages...
also...that last sentence proves my point...if they lived near or in egypt...they would have been influenced by the egyptians...
I'm not really interested in the timelines. Maybe they're true, but what I'm getting at is, what does all this have to do with the Garden of Eden?
you missed the point....try to reread....anything biblical related to genesis is fake and not in line with real world history...no evidence of any type agrees with the creation story
eden is important because its the first place humankind was according to the bible
so how can there be adam and eve in a garden called eden supposedly in the middle east if theres an african civilization (with proof) that predates two people and a serpent in the middle east
even if it did happen...it would have had to come later....if so why is it not on the walls of the pyramids because the bible claims this was when the earth turned upside down...dont forget these were the only two people on earth according to the bible....it just makes no sense...nothing adds up
you missed the point....try to reread....anything biblical related to genesis is fake and not in line with real world history...no evidence of any type agrees with the creation story
eden is important because its the first place humankind was according to the bible
so how can there be adam and eve in a garden called eden supposedly in the middle east if theres an african civilization (with proof) that predates two people and a serpent in the middle east
even if it did happen...it would have had to come later....if so why is it not on the walls of the pyramids because the bible claims this was when the earth turned upside down...dont forget these were the only two people on earth according to the bible....it just makes no sense...nothing adds up
Not sure why you say Eden would be in the Middle East. Most Christians and Jews say they have no clue, and most skeptics say it never existed. Some have speculated that it was in Mesopotamia, but according to the Bible a big azz flood came and wiped out everything, which would have change rivers and oceans, so others say it could be anyway. In addition, these folks also claim it was destroyed long before Egypt and Babylon and Sumer came into existence.
Now a river flows from Eden to water the orchard, and from there it divides into four heads
Heads = African Great Lakes
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