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Old 05-17-2017, 12:58 AM
 
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That just moves the problem to another world, it solves nothing.
Doesn't it? It could be postulated that the origins of life on that Other world are obvious in a way that is not obvious here. So the question of a god being involved doesn't arise. And -as you know - the way logic works in religious debate is -if you suggest something off the top of your head, it has to be accepted as true fact until totally disproven.
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Old 05-17-2017, 01:39 AM
 
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Is there any proof that the Bible is not 100% man made?
Again, same old story.

You cannot define what would you consider as a proof or evidence?
And how will you validate the proof/evidence using all existing knowledge of all humanity combined. You can't!

This is NOT how it works in the matters of faith.

It starts with the question whether you want to find God and his guidance to provide you with a purpose of your life?

1 - If the answer is "No". Then stop right here. Because with this mindset, no matter what proof and/or evidence is presented to you, you will always find a way to reject or dismiss it.

Even if God comes down to meet you as a proof, you will probably say, "This can't be real, I am dreaming."

So whenever a person demands a proof in the matters of faith, you should know right away that he is not lookng for God.

Believing in God is faith, and faith is not based on proof and evidence.

2 - If your answer is Yes. Then you take a journey to find and analyze the SIGNS of God. (Looking and searching for SIGNS of God versus demanding the evidence of God - see the difference between the two approaches?).

You use your intelligence, logic and common sense during the study of holy text under your research - be it Bible, Torah, Quran, Gita or whatever.

And you let your heart answer the question, "Is it the truth?"

This should help you figure out what talks to your heart and you form your faith from there.

Whether there is an evidence that Bible is the word of God, is NOT the question.
After studying and analyzing it using your intelligence logic and common sense, does the Bible talk to your heart IS THE QUESTION!


If the answer is no, continue your journey to studying and analyzing all other holy books, and see if you receive the call from your heart?

It ALL comes down to how you answer THAT question. Refer to the underlined above.

Those who demand evidence, will perhaps never find one (because no one ever has), till the bell rings and the last curtain falls on their eyes.

Life is short and it must come to an end for all of us.

We should wisely make our choices because in the end, we will be responsible for our choices.
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Old 05-17-2017, 02:32 AM
 
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There is NO proof for the slackers , but if people follow the instruction of the authorship of Jesus Christ for salvation then the proof is indeed there , as God will interact with the obedient , and put His spirit on these peoples spirit in a profound way that the question of proof will be answered ...... See the book of Acts 2 of the bible brought the salvation for anybody through out the world interested in salvation , as God released His spirit , and is still doing this today for those who convert by God`s authorship of salvation , and not man`s ways for salvation
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Old 05-17-2017, 03:49 AM
 
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Is there any proof that the Bible is not 100% man made?

Anything that a human (or anything else) does...The Universe (God) is doing.
Thus, God (The Universe) is responsible for The Bible, and everything else that exists. God (The Universe) does everything, and is everything.
It is, "The All God Show", all the time. Always has been, and always will be.
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Old 05-17-2017, 05:35 AM
 
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four posts of nonsense, one after he other - only thing is, mine was deliberately nonsense.
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Old 05-17-2017, 06:50 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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That just moves the problem to another world, it solves nothing.
No, it just states the reality. We don't know. One can claim "god", one can claim aliens, one can claim evolution, but no one can claim anything factually, yet.
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Old 05-17-2017, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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There is NO proof for the slackers , but if people follow the instruction of the authorship of Jesus Christ for salvation then the proof is indeed there , as God will interact with the obedient , and put His spirit on these peoples spirit in a profound way that the question of proof will be answered ...... See the book of Acts 2 of the bible brought the salvation for anybody through out the world interested in salvation , as God released His spirit , and is still doing this today for those who convert by God`s authorship of salvation , and not man`s ways for salvation
In other words, if you will put on your rose colored glasses and just believe what religion teaches, you will accept the Bible as factual evidence.
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Old 05-17-2017, 07:29 AM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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And the man himself is made by who?
Single cell amoebas that evolved into life as we know it..from the primordial soup.
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Old 05-17-2017, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Georgia
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Is there any proof that the Bible is not 100% man made?
If you are looking for "scientific" proof, you'll never find it. Without The Holy Spirit in your heart, it will never make sense. The choice is yours.
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Old 05-17-2017, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Western Washington
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If you are looking for "scientific" proof, you'll never find it. Without The Holy Spirit in your heart, it will never make sense. The choice is yours.
I find it refreshing when even the religious posters admit that there is no proof that the Bible is true.
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