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Old 06-15-2017, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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I keep hearing about how loving your god is. I have experienced 'God's love' first hand. Trust me - you don't want to experience his hate!
Was the flood also an example of his 'love'?
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Old 06-15-2017, 01:13 PM
 
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I keep hearing about how loving your god is. I have experienced 'God's love' first hand. Trust me - you don't want to experience his hate!
Was the flood also an example of his 'love'?
You wouldn't be existing right now if not for the Flood. Neither would countless other beautiful people. Still think that was an act of hate?
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Old 06-15-2017, 01:33 PM
 
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You wouldn't be existing right now if not for the Flood. Neither would countless other beautiful people. Still think that was an act of hate?
You are so right Jeff, gods beautiful nazzie people must really make christians proud.




GOD WITH US

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Old 06-15-2017, 02:20 PM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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You wouldn't be existing right now if not for the Flood. Neither would countless other beautiful people. Still think that was an act of hate?


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You wouldn't be existing right now if not for the Flood. Neither would countless other beautiful people. Still think that was an act of hate?
Even if that were a true story and I would bet my life it isn't, it is rather like a farmer, ...in fact, there may be an existing example.

"Listen, Dandelion. You're fond of stories, aren't you? I'll tell you one -- yes, one for El-ahrairah to cry at. Once there was a fine warren on the edge of a wood, overlooking the meadows of a farm. It was big, full of rabbits. Then one day the white blindness came and the rabbits fell sick and died. But a few survived, as they always do. The warren became almost empty. One day the farmer thought, 'I could increase those rabbits: make them part of my farm -- their meat, their skins. Why should I bother to keep rabbits in hutches? They'll do very well where they are.' He began to shoot all elil -- lendri, homba, stoat, owl. He put out food for the rabbits, but not too near the warren. For his purpose they had to become accustomed to going about in the fields and the wood. And then he snared them -- not too many: as many as he wanted and not as many as would frighten them all away or destroy the warren. They grew big and strong and healthy, for he saw to it that they had all of the best, particularly in winter, and nothing to fear -- except the running knot in the hedge gap and the wood path. So they lived as he wanted them to live and all the time there were a few who disappeared. The rabbits became strange in many ways, different from other rabbits. They knew well enough what was happening. But even to themselves they pretended that all was well, for the food was good, they were protected, they had nothing to fear but the one fear; and that struck here and there, never enough at a time to drive them away. They forgot the ways of wild rabbits. They forgot El-ahrairah, for what use had they for tricks and cunning, living in the enemy's warren and paying his price? They found out other marvelous arts to take the place of tricks and old stories. They danced in ceremonious greeting. They sang songs like the birds and made Shapes on the walls; and though these could help them not at all, yet they passed the time and enabled them to tell themselves that they were splendid fellows, the very flower of Rabbitry, cleverer than magpies.....: (Watership Down)

The analogy can't be pushed too far, but the idea of wiping out everything He had no use for and simply Using the remainder for his purposes flags up that the Flood story is no more beautiful or merciful than it is likely to be true.
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Old 06-15-2017, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Type 0.73 Kardashev
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You wouldn't be existing right now if not for the Flood. Neither would countless other beautiful people. Still think that was an act of hate?
The notion that because act A benefited person B, it thereby follows that person B should not perceive the act A as hateful is ... well, idiotic.

You might as well say to someone conceived through rape: "You wouldn't be existing right now if not for the rape of your mother. Neither would countless other beautiful people. Still think of rape as an act of hate?"

Even by your exceptionally low standards, Jeff, your 'logic' is absurd.
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Old 06-15-2017, 02:54 PM
 
Location: The Eastern Shore
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The notion that because act A benefited person B, it thereby follows that person B should not perceive the act A as hateful is ... well, idiotic.

You might as well say to someone conceived through rape: "You wouldn't be existing right now if not for the rape of your mother. Neither would countless other beautiful people. Still think of rape as an act of hate?"

Even by your exceptionally low standards, Jeff, your 'logic' is absurd.
Checkmate!
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Old 06-15-2017, 03:43 PM
 
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You wouldn't be existing right now if not for the Flood. Neither would countless other beautiful people. Still think that was an act of hate?
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The notion that because act A benefited person B, it thereby follows that person B should not perceive the act A as hateful is ... well, idiotic.

You might as well say to someone conceived through rape: "You wouldn't be existing right now if not for the rape of your mother. Neither would countless other beautiful people. Still think of rape as an act of hate?"

Even by your exceptionally low standards, Jeff, your 'logic' is absurd.
BOOM!

Snowflake
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Old 06-15-2017, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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You wouldn't be existing right now if not for the Flood. Neither would countless other beautiful people. Still think that was an act of hate?
Yes
A loving god would have fixed the problem, not cruelly murdered everone.

A loving god would not have allowed my son to suffer through his young life and to die in pain.
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Old 06-15-2017, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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The notion that because act A benefited person B, it thereby follows that person B should not perceive the act A as hateful is ... well, idiotic.

You might as well say to someone conceived through rape: "You wouldn't be existing right now if not for the rape of your mother. Neither would countless other beautiful people. Still think of rape as an act of hate?"

Even by your exceptionally low standards, Jeff, your 'logic' is absurd.
Well stated!
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Old 06-15-2017, 11:27 PM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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The notion that because act A benefited person B, it thereby follows that person B should not perceive the act A as hateful is ... well, idiotic.

You might as well say to someone conceived through rape: "You wouldn't be existing right now if not for the rape of your mother. Neither would countless other beautiful people. Still think of rape as an act of hate?"

Even by your exceptionally low standards, Jeff, your 'logic' is absurd.
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