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Old 08-03-2019, 01:10 PM
 
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Look back at the previous four pages, the ratio of Buddhist quotes to non-Buddhist is very much in favor of the latter.

As for lack of discussion, am I supposed to supply the topics for discussion and the responses too?
It was merely a suggestion. if it doesn't appeal to you, that's an end of it.
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Old 08-03-2019, 01:10 PM
 
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William Faulkner (1897-1962)

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He [the writer] must teach himself that the basest of all things is to be afraid and, teaching
himself that, forget it forever, leaving no room in his workshop for anything but the old verities
and truths of the heart, the old universal truths lacking which any story is ephemeral and doomed
love and honor and pity and pride and compassion and sacrifice.

I believe man will not merely endure, he will prevail. He is immortal, not because he, alone
among creatures, has an inexhaustible voice but because he has a soul, a spirit capable of
compassion and sacrifice and endurance.
Nobel Prize speech, 1950.
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Old 08-04-2019, 02:21 AM
 
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I don't want to start a fight here - let Mahayana post his claims ..whatever they are...and welcome. But it just struck me that this William Faulkner looked a bit of a twit, going by his speech. So what did he get his award for? Science? Philosophy? Politics?

It was for writing novels and screenplay. So how does he work as an authority for whatever argument is being made?

This is why i had to post. What we seem to be getting is the Other side of the 'misuse of analogy' argument which I would love to see called 'Arq's fallacy' - using analogy to try to prove something rather than illustrate in a simpler analogy a known tuth that is difficult to understand.

The Heads of the coin is Pauline misuse of scripture, quotemining out of context, 'Prophecy' by fiddling the OT to fit the new or inventing the NT events to fit the OT passages (The deaths of Judas is an example of the former and John's spear -thrust appears to be an example of the latter). Paul (notably in Romans) worked out his own Doctrinal Theory and used OT passages (often out of context and misused) to support his thesis. While it might be possible that he was just using these passages to illustrate his point, I'm pretty sure that he was treating them as 'prophecy'; effectively using OT passages as evidence of what he was arguing.

Which is why we get this odd business of just lifting Anything that seems to endorse what is being argued. If it's an Authority, that's good. Einstein is the best if one can fiddle it, but a winner of a Nobel prize for piano playing will do at a pinch.
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Old 08-04-2019, 07:58 AM
 
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I don't want to start a fight here - let Mahayana post his claims ..whatever they are...and welcome. But it just struck me that this William Faulkner looked a bit of a twit, going by his speech. So what did he get his award for? Science? Philosophy? Politics?

It was for writing novels and screenplay. So how does he work as an authority for whatever argument is being made?

This thread I called "In Praise of Virtue". Praise is not contention or argument from authority or any other kind of dispute. Human society is always in need of Virtue, ethics & morality, especially in these times.

That was the only purpose, and I encourage others to post quotes they like, which praise virtue or ethics or morality.
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Old 08-04-2019, 11:07 AM
 
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So it's more a thread in praise of 'virtue' (which I'd agree with - from a humanist-ethical point of view) and calling for any verse (not implying any Authority) ..just praising it.

That's fine and i withdraw my objection.

In fact I'll post (from memory) a passage from one of the most impressive philosophers I know (beats a lot of the ones that roll up here talking the utterest tosh) Charles Schultz

(Shermy) "I've got this whole Santa -thing sorted out, Charlie Brown. If Santa's real, he's going to be too nice not to bring me any presents, no matter how bad i behave, right? And, if he Isn't real, I haven't lost anything, right? Right!"

(Charlie Brown): "Wrong, but I don't know where."
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Old Today, 06:33 PM
 
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One who neglects or disregards the existence of earth, air, fire, water, and vegetation disregards his own existence which is entwined with them.

Mahavira, Founder of Jainism
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