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Old 06-20-2017, 10:44 AM
 
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I'm not putting this in any specific sub-category but I suppose we could focus on Islam and Christianity.

Even the most believing followers of these two religions sometimes have a hard time reconciling their respective texts specifically when it comes to the powers of supernatural beings on earth. From my crude knowledge of The Bible as a kid/teen, the devil rules the earth and has background influence which is still very powerful. Some Christians I've talked to say that it's only earthly temptations and 'moving' people away from God while others say that the devil actually has influence on humans and a few crazies I've met believe that the scientific progress of the ruling elite came from satanic powers (however that's a whole nother conspiracy which I'll reserve for another thread).

What do you non religious and religious folks think? Are the testimonies of people dabbling in the dark arts serious or just the power of the amazing mind?
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Old 06-20-2017, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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Do 'satanic powers' exist...

No. It's all in your head.
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Old 06-20-2017, 10:56 AM
 
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Well, biblically speaking, "satan" simply means adversary and "devil" means slanderer. Anybody can be those things to us, and we can be those things to others.
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Old 06-20-2017, 11:17 AM
 
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I could tell you.


But then I'd have to kill you.





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Old 06-20-2017, 11:32 AM
 
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Yes. Of course Satan is an actual being. He is alive and active. The Bible is clear on that one. He is the deceiver and the father of lies. Ephesians 6 talks about our struggle being spiritual in nature. Satan wants to deceive the church, and I believe he has had a field day as of late. Heck, there are plenty of folks on this very board that believe some really demonic doctrines.
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Old 06-20-2017, 11:39 AM
 
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I'm not putting this in any specific sub-category but I suppose we could focus on Islam and Christianity.

Even the most believing followers of these two religions sometimes have a hard time reconciling their respective texts specifically when it comes to the powers of supernatural beings on earth. From my crude knowledge of The Bible as a kid/teen, the devil rules the earth and has background influence which is still very powerful. Some Christians I've talked to say that it's only earthly temptations and 'moving' people away from God while others say that the devil actually has influence on humans and a few crazies I've met believe that the scientific progress of the ruling elite came from satanic powers (however that's a whole nother conspiracy which I'll reserve for another thread).

What do you non religious and religious folks think? Are the testimonies of people dabbling in the dark arts serious or just the power of the amazing mind?
The only way to know or sure is to be *touched one single time* by Satan just to have the experience and see how that one time changes your life.
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Old 06-20-2017, 11:45 AM
 
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Yes. Of course Satan is an actual being. He is alive and active. The Bible is clear on that one. He is the deceiver and the father of lies. Ephesians 6 talks about our struggle being spiritual in nature. Satan wants to deceive the church, and I believe he has had a field day as of late. Heck, there are plenty of folks on this very board that believe some really demonic doctrines.
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Old 06-20-2017, 11:47 AM
 
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So does that mean you agree?
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Old 06-20-2017, 11:54 AM
 
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Yes. Of course Satan is an actual being. He is alive and active. The Bible is clear on that one. He is the deceiver and the father of lies. Ephesians 6 talks about our struggle being spiritual in nature. Satan wants to deceive the church, and I believe he has had a field day as of late. Heck, there are plenty of folks on this very board that believe some really demonic doctrines.
In 2017 folks!
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Old 06-20-2017, 12:00 PM
 
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So does that mean you agree?
It means I think you're naive.
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