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Old 07-05-2017, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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And yet you are not a Muslim, despite all of the amazing evidence for the Muslim faith.
Take the beam out of your own eye.
Re: jeffbase...
I see no 'beam'... we can have preferences...beliefs that fit us better than others...
some people have switched over to painting their faces and doing Moon Dances and sweats..
it suits them...
no beam in them either.
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Old 07-05-2017, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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I get it. Rather than address the issue, you attack the source. Very open-minded of you.
I think that the sources that have promoted this study as demonstrating that athiests are less tolerant than the religious have twisted the conclusions of the study to suit their politics, here's an explanation

No, a New Study Doesn
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Old 07-05-2017, 06:03 PM
 
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Wow. I can tell I struck a nerve. Tolerant atheists, I see.
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Old 07-05-2017, 06:05 PM
 
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This only confirms what I've said all along. It is pointless and a waste of time to respond to an atheist's request for evidence of our faith. They are so close minded and present an attitude that they can never be wrong about anything they say or post.
Exactly. At least the brand of atheist that tends to frequent message boards. And respond to surveys, apparently.
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Old 07-05-2017, 06:20 PM
 
Location: minnesota
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So OP, it sounds like you think being "open minded" is a good thing.

From the comments section of the article:
That isn't actually what the study found. To determine "tolerance" they provided two statements and asked subjects to rate them from 1 to 9 on how true they were. Here are two actual statements from the study:

1. A health magazine survey found that people who live a long life eat some sorts of white meat, e.g., fish or chicken.

2. A study by a health organization suggests that it is much more healthy to be a strict vegetarian who does not eat meat at all.

How do you rate them?

Christians were found to "tolerate" the contradiction by rating them both as true more than atheists who would rate one as false and the other as true. So it's not "tolerance" as you might think the word means.

In any case, the differences between the two groups were small and sometimes even reversed.
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I don't know how those questions would have anything to with how open minded someone was. More likely it seems that atheists may be somewhat better at spotting inconsistency if it means anything.

No matter because the FSM predicted atheist would be persecuted by those without bleep detectors. They would hate us for our bleep spotting righteousness. You are just proving the FSM right with your twisting of words.

Just kidding, I dish it out and I expect to take it.

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Old 07-05-2017, 06:27 PM
 
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"...in this study, the Christian samples may not have been fully representative of a highly religious population. These samples scored moderately on religiosity and were particularly "liberal" or "questers"..."

https://www.researchgate.net/publica...sts_undogmatic
I'm shocked! Shocked, I say, to learn that there are methodological issues with a study by the Catholic University of Louvain finding that believers - ie, Catholics and others - are more tolerant than non-believers. Truly, this is as stunning as that time Fidel Castro University released a study that found that communism was better than capitalism, and that one was found to have flaws.

Wake me the next time an atheist blows away people at a gay nightclub or plants a nail-bomb at one, or guns down doctors at a clinic, or flies a plane into a building.
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Old 07-05-2017, 06:51 PM
 
Location: minnesota
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From the original article:

The findings also said that the strength of a person's belief in either atheism or religion is directly correlated to how intolerant they are.

How strong are your beliefs OP?
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Old 07-05-2017, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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The findings also said that the strength of a person's belief in either atheism or religion is directly correlated to how intolerant they are.

How strong are your beliefs OP?


Your awakening is heartening enough but you are growing by the day. You are the wise woman of your village, or will be soon enough. I see an owl on your shoulder.
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Old 07-05-2017, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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I'm shocked! Shocked, I say, to learn that there are methodological issues with a study by the Catholic University of Louvain finding that believers - ie, Catholics and others - are more tolerant than non-believers. Truly, this is as stunning as that time Fidel Castro University released a study that found that communism was better than capitalism, and that one was found to have flaws.

Wake me the next time an atheist blows away people at a gay nightclub or plants a nail-bomb at one, or guns down doctors at a clinic, or flies a plane into a building.
You kaboom like Shirina.

Too soon, of course.
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Old 07-05-2017, 07:47 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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So OP, it sounds like you think being "open minded" is a good thing.

From the comments section of the article:
That isn't actually what the study found. To determine "tolerance" they provided two statements and asked subjects to rate them from 1 to 9 on how true they were. Here are two actual statements from the study:

1. A health magazine survey found that people who live a long life eat some sorts of white meat, e.g., fish or chicken.

2. A study by a health organization suggests that it is much more healthy to be a strict vegetarian who does not eat meat at all.

How do you rate them?

Christians were found to "tolerate" the contradiction by rating them both as true more than atheists who would rate one as false and the other as true. So it's not "tolerance" as you might think the word means.

In any case, the differences between the two groups were small and sometimes even reversed.
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I don't know how those questions would have anything to with how open minded someone was. More likely it seems that atheists may be somewhat better at spotting inconsistency if it means anything.

No matter because the FSM predicted atheist would be persecuted by those without bull**** detectors. They would hate us for our bull**** spotting righteousness. You are just proving the FSM right with your twisting of words.

Just kidding, I dish it out and I expect to take it.
Good researching.

Re the bolded: Some Christians like to hedge their bets. I can think of a couple/few regulars who fit that description. They hope to earn heaven by living lives that are a net benefit to the planet but are prepared to tithe their way outta hell.

ETA: Just in case....
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