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Old 01-22-2019, 06:07 PM
 
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it aint the whole god story bro. and you know it.
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Old 01-22-2019, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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it aint the whole god story bro. and you know it.
No. I no longer believe in god or gods. At all. Period.

And I would suggest you not tell others what they believe.
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Old 01-22-2019, 07:36 PM
 
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There are so many good people I am discovering who identify as Christian (in some fashion). Which tells me that there is something good about at the Trinity story. That is what I am trying to research more.
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Old 01-22-2019, 07:54 PM
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Location: Ontario, Canada
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There are so many good people I am discovering who identify as Christian (in some fashion). Which tells me that there is something good about at the Trinity story. That is what I am trying to research more.
C'mon, Ozzy. There are good Christians, Muslims, Jews, Atheists and Others of every belief and non.

There are good people. And there are crappy people.

Personally, I think most of the crappy ones are religionists of one description or another - but your mileage obviously varies.
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Old 01-23-2019, 03:00 AM
 
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There are so many good people I am discovering who identify as Christian (in some fashion). Which tells me that there is something good about at the Trinity story. That is what I am trying to research more.
Most people have some religious affiliation, so they are in the majority. Most are simply average working class citizens. Of course, you can go off-road and find extremist in any belief system.

Some people have a need to categorize people in order to deride or otherize. You'd do well to monitor the accusers because most of the time they are projecting themselves onto others and they desire something from the accused. It's almost is if the accuser can never be happy as long as the accused is merrily going about their way. In this way, the accused holds the accuser in their hands.
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Old 01-23-2019, 05:18 AM
 
Location: Germany
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There are so many good people I am discovering who identify as Christian (in some fashion). Which tells me that there is something good about at the Trinity story. That is what I am trying to research more.
The story that helped destroy the Roman empire (where belief was more important than ability)?

You are also ignoring the good non-trinitrians.
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Old 01-23-2019, 05:41 AM
 
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The story that helped destroy the Roman empire (where belief was more important than ability)?

You are also ignoring the good non-trinitrians.
I don't believe for one second that religion ever caused anything to happen. Religion reflects society. You are giving it way too much credit.

Non-religious people are not a part of society because they are not involved with religion, so they should never be blamed for the evils that occur in the world. They just sit back and reap the benefits, always without blame.
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Old 01-23-2019, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Germany
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I don't believe for one second that religion ever caused anything to happen. Religion reflects society. You are giving it way too much credit.
I never said religion, I was talking about the belief in the trinity. And if you was not a Trinitarian, you was not allowed a classical education, and so you could not be a member of the government. And the Christians changed what could be taught, so valuable none Christian documents were lost.

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Non-religious people are not a part of society because they are not involved with religion, so they should never be blamed for the evils that occur in the world. They just sit back and reap the benefits, always without blame.
I have no idea what this nonsense has to do with what I wrote.
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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I don't believe for one second that religion ever caused anything to happen. Religion reflects society. You are giving it way too much credit.

Non-religious people are not a part of society because they are not involved with religion, so they should never be blamed for the evils that occur in the world. They just sit back and reap the benefits, always without blame.
Okay. Something we can agree on -- that religion reflects society. At least to a degree.

Oops. An ignorant statement -- that non-religious people are not a part of society. Funny, when I lived in Asia, I was still part of society. I still had an effect on people who had a different culture than I did. I still contributed financially to that society. I still interacted with just as broad a spectrum of people in that society as I did in the States.
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Old 01-23-2019, 04:04 PM
 
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I don't believe for one second that religion ever caused anything to happen. Religion reflects society. You are giving it way too much credit.

Non-religious people are not a part of society because they are not involved with religion, so they should never be blamed for the evils that occur in the world. They just sit back and reap the benefits, always without blame.
Its funny ozzy, the more they blame the less they understand what they do not know.
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