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No. It isn't. Just read Surah 3-5. It's clear from the muddled understanding of Christianity that it's the product of a human mind--specifically one that has no clue what Christianity teaches.
there are many other scientific sites confirm the number is 360 and this number was agreed about recently.
Yes, but as observed, there is nothing remarkable about that, and the number of joints is not too accurate. it seems to overestimate by ten or so. This is not stunning evidence, as I said.
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any thing mentioned by Mahammad it would be in his time between the time he was a prophet at 610 ad until the time he died in 632 ad.
the Umayyad was in 662 to 750 ad.
It is believed that the Birmingham Koran was produced between 568AD and 645AD, while the dates usually given for Muhammad are between 570AD and 632AD.
However (as I pointed out) an apologetics site notes that this is only the date of the paper, not of the writing. Can you produce any better evidence than statements of faith to show a Quran that dates to the time of Muhammed? I believe there are five early copies and they are all after his time. In fact they would have to be since isn't it said that Uthman had all other copies of the Quran destroyed?
I will say this much. There are explanations as to why the Proofs you put forward don't persuade, but the howlers like the fly's wing come from the hadiths. So, apart from the dubious claims about human reproduction, I know of no real debunkers, unlike the Bible, unless the one about salt and freah water not mixing is from the Quran. Is it?
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Quran and Hadith are all from Allah
Then the Fly's wing cure debunks you.
Yes, it is from the Quran, and salt and water do mix. There is a you tube experiment proving this, and brackish water was known from antiquity. The knowledge fo the writers (presumably because they never went near the sea) was less good than the average illiterate fisherman that lived there.
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No. It isn't. Just read Surah 3-5. It's clear from the muddled understanding of Christianity that it's the product of a human mind--specifically one that has no clue what Christianity teaches.
I do hope you are taking careful not of this, old chum. The muddled understanding of Christianity (as an analogy of muddled understanding of evolution, for example), the denialist restatement of debunks claims, and the rereated faith -assertions are not only peculiar to Islamic apologetics.
No. It isn't. Just read Surah 3-5. It's clear from the muddled understanding of Christianity that it's the product of a human mind--specifically one that has no clue what Christianity teaches.
Christianity and Jews and every one must follow Mahammad if muddled understanding of Christianity or not.
they must follow the final messenger his message was for every one and not for certain people.
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Tired of the Nonsense wrote:
Anyone interested in in science and medicine would naturally study a human skeleton as a learning tool. Human skeletons had precisely the same number of joints 1400 years ago as they do today.
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Mahammad got the information from Gabriel and Gabriel got them from Allah
Is there is no chance someone interested in human anatomy might have counted the number of joints in a human body at some point. And of course there is no chance at all that Muhammad, while chatting with his physician, might have picked up this information, I suppose? I personally have a rather vast amount of information stored in my head, most of which I picked up from other individuals in some manner. None of it was given to me by an angel, however.
Your point is that Muhammad seems to have known fourteen hundred years ago the human body has 360 joints is compelling evidence that the Quran is authentic. But it just is not compelling. Fourteen hundred years ago the human body had EXACTLY the same number of joints as the human body does today. Kudos to Muhammad for getting it right though.
Yes, it is from the Quran, and salt and water do mix. .
here are the verses that have the evidences
He has set free the two seas meeting together. There is a barrier between them. They do not transgress. The Holy Quran
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He is the one who has set free the two kinds of water, one sweet and palatable, and the other salty and bitter. And He has made between them a barrier and a forbidding partition. The Holy Quran
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Is not He (better than your gods) Who has made the earth as a fixed abode, and has placed rivers in its midst, and has placed firm mountains therein, and has set a barrier between the two seas (of salt and sweet water)? Is there any ilah (god) with Allah? Nay, but most of them know not! The Holy Quran
There is a you tube experiment proving this, and brackish water was known from antiquity. The knowledge fo the writers (presumably because they never went near the sea) was less good than the average illiterate fisherman that lived there.
Tired of the Nonsense wrote:
Anyone interested in in science and medicine would naturally study a human skeleton as a learning tool. Human skeletons had precisely the same number of joints 1400 years ago as they do today.
Is there is no chance someone interested in human anatomy might have counted the number of joints in a human body at some point. And of course there is no chance at all that Muhammad, while chatting with his physician, might have picked up this information, I suppose? I personally have a rather vast amount of information stored in my head, most of which I picked up from other individuals in some manner. None of it was given to me by an angel, however.
Your point is that Muhammad seems to have known fourteen hundred years ago the human body has 360 joints is compelling evidence that the Quran is authentic. But it just is not compelling. Fourteen hundred years ago the human body had EXACTLY the same number of joints as the human body does today. Kudos to Muhammad for getting it right though.
Was muhammed also correct when he said that the sperm orginates from a man's belly?
Maybe is was symbolic?
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