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Old 08-21-2017, 03:15 PM
 
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The interpretation of the Hadith is to be thankful to Allah by doing good deeds
for Allah sake or by praying to Allah .

If you don't follow Jesus you're in danger of hell" that is correct but it apply to those who were living at the time of the messenger of Allah Isa (Jesus) peace be upon him until the time of the messenger of Allah who came after him after 610 years and that is Mahammad.

and the idea is not to obey Jesus or Mahammad but the idea to obey the one who send them ,
The creator the god the only god Allah.
yeah, obey, that's not what its about.

its about being you, the best you, you can be.
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Old 08-21-2017, 03:20 PM
 
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We have two groups here, each claiming to have the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, coming straight from God/Allah. One of them MUST be wrong.

There are clues as to which is wrong.

The one that claims a man flew up to heaven.
The one that claims a man flew up into the clouds on a horse.

Take your pick
those who flew up they did not do that by their own ability
but by the ability of the one who designed you and made you and brought you to life .


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So similar yet so far apart.
because the Gospel is Distorted.
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Old 08-21-2017, 03:35 PM
 
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Noted, But didn't you say that they were both the word of Allah? You can change your mind on that if you like, but otherwise, the point has no point.
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Yes the Hadith is also from Allah and I did not change my mind
all what I said is that is Hadith not Quran .

the main sources of Islam are

1- The holy Quran
The Holy Quran is correct a 100%
The Quran is a record of the exact words revealed by Allah through the Angel Gabriel to the Prophet Muhammad.
It was memorized by Muhammad and then dictated to his Companions, and written down by scribes, who cross-checked it during his lifetime.
Not one word of its 114 chapters, Suras, has been changed over the centuries,
2- Hadith
The Hadith is the practice and example and saying of the Prophet, is the second authority for Muslims.
A hadith is a reliably transmitted report of what the Prophet said, did, or approved.
and it is one of the two parts of divine Revelation that were revealed to the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him).
“Nor does he speak of (his own) desire.
It is only a Revelation revealed” The Holy Quran.
and for the Hadith the Authenticity rank of hadith are
1- (sound)
2- (good)
3- (weak)
4- (fabricated)
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Old 08-21-2017, 03:56 PM
 
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I can't believe anyone would post something like this as irrefutable proof of God.

these two professionals books have many proofs.
could you declare your opinions about them ?

https://archive.org/details/TheAmazingQuran.pdf

Islam Guide: A Brief Illustrated Guide to Understanding Islam, Muslims, & the Quran
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Old 08-21-2017, 04:09 PM
 
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all muslim countries around the world totally awful places to live compared to other
Islam is perfect and Muslims are good and bad and in between as any human.
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But still you persist. Ah well.
the right is strong and at the end it is the winner.
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Old 08-21-2017, 04:37 PM
 
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I see ... so we essentially ignore the things Jesus said like, "Love thy neighbor" or "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" or "He who is without sin cast the first stone" and INSTEAD obey God who said things like "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" (which caused the murder of millions of innocent people throughout the centuries) or gay people should be killed or brides who aren't virgins on their wedding night should be killed or ... those who work on the Sabbath should be killed ... or those who disrespect a priest should be killed ... or rebellious children should be killed. Did you read your horoscope in the paper this morning? Whoops, gotta haul your butt out to the town square and stone you to death.

The God who sent Jesus and, presumably Mahammad, is a god of death, hate, jealousy, vengeance, misogyny, and authoritarianistic fascism. Which, of course, is one of many reasons why religion makes very little sense. For some inexplicable reason "God" seems to have gone through a considerable personality overhaul when the Christ Cult erupted ... and again when the Mahammad Cult erupted.

when you follow Mahammad you do not loose Jesus and you do not loose Moses or Noah or all previous messengers and the noble teaching of Jesus it was giving from Allah to him and similar things was giving to Mahammad and the bad image you have about religion is a result of wrong knowledge or understanding.

just ask your self
did you come to this life randomly or planned.?
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Old 08-21-2017, 04:54 PM
 
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I rest my case.

I think this is a sign for you.
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Old 08-21-2017, 05:14 PM
 
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Gee, thanks, God! I'm dying of the Plague right now, but at least I'll win this game of Trivial Pursuit!!
I pray to the one who created you to cure you and guide you to the right
decision and to save you and to believe in him and in his messengers.


The Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) said,
"If anyone testifies that

None has the right to be worshipped but Allah Alone Who has no partners,
and that Muhammad is His Slave and His Apostle,
and that Jesus is Allah's Slave and His Apostle and His Word which He bestowed on Mary and a Spirit created by Him,
and that Paradise is true, and Hell is true,

Allah will admit him into Paradise with the deeds which he had done even if those deeds were few."

(Junada, the sub-narrator said, " 'Ubada added,
'Such a person can enter Paradise through any of its eight gates he likes.")
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Old 08-21-2017, 06:10 PM
 
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I pray to the one who created you to cure you and guide you to the right
decision and to save you and to believe in him and in his messengers.


The Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) said,
"If anyone testifies that

None has the right to be worshipped but Allah Alone Who has no partners,
and that Muhammad is His Slave and His Apostle,
and that Jesus is Allah's Slave and His Apostle and His Word which He bestowed on Mary and a Spirit created by Him,
and that Paradise is true, and Hell is true,

Allah will admit him into Paradise with the deeds which he had done even if those deeds were few."

(Junada, the sub-narrator said, " 'Ubada added,
'Such a person can enter Paradise through any of its eight gates he likes.")
Yes, another epitome of narcissism. Sorry, not someone I would want to worship.
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Old 08-21-2017, 06:31 PM
 
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Yes, another epitome of narcissism.
Did you split my heart open (to see) my real intention?"
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