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Old 08-23-2017, 06:59 PM
 
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That's absolute nonsense and not scriptural. We're told that no man can say except by the power of the HG that Christ has come (in their, not His) in the flesh. THAT, and only that, is what determines whether or not the HG is in residence in the believer. Peace
And you believe that because it is in the book in spite of the fact that MANY people have said that and PROVEN their vicious spirit in their actions.

Credulity is ALSO rife.

 
Old 08-23-2017, 07:11 PM
 
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And you believe that because it is in the book in spite of the fact that MANY people have said that and PROVEN their vicious spirit in their actions.

Credulity is ALSO rife.

I believe that because it's in the book, and because it is true. Peace
 
Old 08-23-2017, 07:18 PM
 
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And you believe that because it is in the book in spite of the fact that MANY people have said that and PROVEN their vicious spirit in their actions.
Credulity is ALSO rife.
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I believe that because it's in the book, and because it is true. Peace
There are so many things in the book that are evil and primitive that are NOT true. Why do you place so much blanket trust in the book and ignore the characteristics of the Spirit that you are supposed to use to test the spirit of what is written in ink?
 
Old 08-23-2017, 07:34 PM
 
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The many-times edited Bible versions even say it, when the Jews deride the practice of "spiritually feeling" the presence of "Gods" in the statues of them (or more literally, deride the worship of other "real" but "less powerful" gods which make their god jealous, their Bible god IS jealousy).

They don't know who crafted their idols or with what purposes or with what tools and techniques. Yet they worship them blindly and insatiably. The same is true with Bibliolatry. They assume (or whole-heartedly cling to the belief) that their statutes and myths are inspired by the procrastinating Heavens themselves.
 
Old 08-23-2017, 08:41 PM
 
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Envy is dangerous,. Similar to covetousness.

And then there is outright theft and oppression.
 
Old 08-24-2017, 02:37 AM
 
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Jesus taught that His followers don`t judge or condemn others , as the wicked spirits of this world will do just that through People even the followers of Jesus ....... Believers are called to be intolerant to sin on them selves , and the things of this world are not important so they could be ignorant of the things of this world or they lost interest in their conversion to the spirit of Christ ..........Like some spirits of this world are a white serpent which rules over false religion and contention which believers in Christ are called to resist , were most people in the world have No knowledge and Discernment of the spirits of the world
 
Old 08-24-2017, 06:44 AM
 
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And just as intolerant are those that decide there are many gods and there can't possibly be one. Can't there be one God and can't he speak to whomever he chooses?

Please answer why there is only one and not diverting why there cant be only one??

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Old 08-24-2017, 07:50 AM
 
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There are so many things in the book that are evil and primitive that are NOT true. Why do you place so much blanket trust in the book and ignore the characteristics of the Spirit that you are supposed to use to test the spirit of what is written in ink?

As I have repeated to deaf ears almost nonstop, NO WHERE are we told to test the spirits the way you are, and for a very good reason. Without realizing it, your way of "testing the spirits" puts you right back to eating of the tree of good and evil, because YOU are deciding via the APPEARANCE realm (what APPEARS to be "good") what "matches".

So by YOUR "test", which is no test, Jesus Himself failed it numerous times. But you go on and "test" away, clueless that you are just adding to your flesh. It's just another example of how men look at the outer, but G-d looks at the inner. Peace

1Jo 4:1 - Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

1Jo 4:2 - Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

1Jo 4:3 - And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

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Old 08-24-2017, 07:53 AM
 
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The many-times edited Bible versions even say it, when the Jews deride the practice of "spiritually feeling" the presence of "Gods" in the statues of them (or more literally, deride the worship of other "real" but "less powerful" gods which make their god jealous, their Bible god IS jealousy).

They don't know who crafted their idols or with what purposes or with what tools and techniques. Yet they worship them blindly and insatiably. The same is true with Bibliolatry. They assume (or whole-heartedly cling to the belief) that their statutes and myths are inspired by the procrastinating Heavens themselves.

No, we cling to revealed Truth, who has a Name, and who reveals His will and purpose to those who seek Him with their whole heart. Peace
 
Old 08-24-2017, 07:56 AM
 
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Us vs Them mentality leads to intolerance. I think Trout touched on that quite well.
I'm not against any Christians. I'm not even against the atheists and pagans. I love you and others here. I even love Trout. I'm sorry if you feel otherwise. It's not the Christians that are insulting others daily here, and attacking anyone that claims to be Christian.
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