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Old 03-24-2008, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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What she's saying is that the answer can change in some situations. You wouldn't murder somebody, but if you are armed and somebody tries to kill you, you should shoot them, even if it kills them.
That's not murder.


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freedom
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Old 03-24-2008, 09:56 AM
 
Location: An absurd world.
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That's not murder.


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freedom
It might not fit the criteria for murder, but it still is taking a life. I should have worded that better.
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Old 03-24-2008, 10:08 AM
 
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It might not fit the criteria for murder, but it still is taking a life. I should have worded that better.
The Beauty of believing (being and living) the principles of Christ, is that everything gets easier to discern as one gets closer to being like Christ.


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Old 03-24-2008, 10:11 AM
 
Location: An absurd world.
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The Beauty of believing (being and living) the principles of Christ, is that everything gets easier to discern as one gets closer to being like Christ.


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freedom
What you posted means nothing to me seeing as I don't accept the Bible as truth. My original statement stands. What is right and wrong depends on the situation.
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Old 03-24-2008, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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What you posted means nothing to me seeing as I don't accept the Bible as truth. My original statement stands. What is right and wrong depends on the situation.
Jesus and His disciples taught many truths that some Atheists seem to embrace.

Golden rule....(do unto others)
Kind
Love
Patience
Tolerance
Peace
Pay your taxes
Think powerful thoughts
Give to the weak, needy
Do good

godspeed,

freedom
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Old 03-24-2008, 10:20 AM
 
Location: South Central PA
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Jesus and His disciples taught many truths that some Atheists seem to embrace.

Golden rule....(do unto others)
Kind
Love
Patience
Tolerance
Peace
Pay your taxes
Think powerful thoughts
Give to the weak, needy
Do good

godspeed,

freedom
Believing in those principles has nothing to do with being religious, it has to do with being human. It's just that Jesus believed in those things too. That dosent make them religious.

The church accepting the world is round dosent mean believing the world is round is religious.

A square is a rectangle but a rectangle isn't a square.
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Old 03-24-2008, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Oz
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Actually i can....

Many i know would not have the least bit of difficulty answering.
Okay, here's what I'm talking about:

Friend of yours has a baby. Shows it to you proudly and says "Isn't he the most beautiful baby in the world?" You look at the baby, and it's the ugliest thing you've ever seen. But you say "Yes, you have a beautiful child!" That's a lie -- but it's not wrong.

Woman is beaten severely by her husband. She divorces him. Not wrong. Or one spouse cheats repeatedly on the other, causing a divorce. Not wrong.

An adult male sees an adult female (or another adult male) walking down the street and is attracted to them. Has thoughts of sexual acts with them. Not wrong.

Subjective. Everything is subjective.
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Old 03-24-2008, 10:26 AM
 
Location: An absurd world.
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Jesus and His disciples taught many truths that some Atheists seem to embrace.

Golden rule....(do unto others)
Kind
Love
Patience
Tolerance
Peace
Pay your taxes
Think powerful thoughts
Give to the weak, needy
Do good

godspeed,

freedom
Those things are also taught in many religions that predate Christianity by thousands of years. They are even in the works of many philosophers (Confucius for example.).

By the way, I don't think Jesus ever said anything about taxes. There are many Christians who have political ideology that contradicts that notion. Some of the first anarchists were Christians who believed that the Bible should be the book laws are made from, not a government. They didn't believe in paying taxes.
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Old 03-24-2008, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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Believing in those principles has nothing to do with being religious, it has to do with being human. It's just that Jesus believed in those things too. That dosent make them religious.

The church accepting the world is round dosent mean believing the world is round is religious.

A square is a rectangle but a rectangle isn't a square.
Its a philosophy of living. Which pays dividends in health, wealth, and quality of life.

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freedom
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Old 03-24-2008, 10:50 AM
 
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What you posted means nothing to me seeing as I don't accept the Bible as truth. My original statement stands. What is right and wrong depends on the situation.
I agree wholeheartedly with you here. Morality is subjective and not just dependent on the situation but on the society in which the people live in
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