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Yes, let's put the blame where it belongs - with the god that ordered these atrocities, punished the tribe by death when they refused to do it and carried out mass extermination on his own account. Let's not blame men, eh? They were only following orders.
Life is a gift. The creator has every right to take back that life at any moment especially if we are doing harm to others. If someone created a robot that went off on a mass murdering spree, you wouldn't claim the inventor is immorable for destroying his creation and stopping the killing.
He would certainly be immoral if he claimed that none of his was his fault, just because he made them.
Take the analogy a bit further, Jeff, old mate. Admittedly, it would be needful to throw a switch and immobilise the whole batch. We will asssume that God can do that. But these things are sentinent. They are damn' near human. Break them up for scrap? Really? Couldn't they just be fixed?
Follow it still further. The robot maker looked over the plans and KNEW that one would go on ..well...we have to make it ALL of them would go on the Rampage. Why build them at all? Why not start with Mark II first time?
You see where this is going? Eithe Biblegod is incompetent, a bit of a monster - or the whole story is a fairy tale.
Your efforts to point out the irrational and inconsistent primitive descriptions and beliefs ABOUT God are valid, but when you try to imply that they in any way invalidate the existence of God you yourselves become irrational. Primitive and ignorant (lack knowledge) beliefs ABOUT God are easy to refute. The existence of God not so much despite your unbelievable hubris about it.
Why do atheists spend their time daily arguing about the characteristics of something they claim doesn't exist?
This actually opens up another element pertinent to the thread topic, if you converse and argue over something that potentially does not exist, do you give it "legs" or create an "existence by thought/belief/non-belief/argument/etc."?
Take a non-demonstrative real life individual that leads a quiet life and passes without leaving much of a mark or lasting legacy/influence in their wake. Compare that to a non-existent individual/entity that has been hotly debated, touted, followed, etc. and has had a HUGE influence both past and present, along with an ongoing effect over mankind.
Which of the two has the greater claim to existence?
This actually opens up another element pertinent to the thread topic, if you converse and argue over something that potentially does not exist, do you give it "legs" or create an "existence by thought/belief/non-belief/argument/etc."?
Take a non-demonstrative real life individual that leads a quiet life and passes without leaving much of a mark or lasting legacy/influence in their wake. Compare that to a non-existent individual/entity that has been hotly debated, touted, followed, etc. and has had a HUGE influence both past and present, along with an ongoing effect over mankind.
Which of the two has the greater claim to existence?
You are confusing existence with influence. Santa Claus doesn’t exist either - but no doubt he has had influence (still doesn’t mean he exists). The individual, no matter how little he influenced anyone, still is/was - and therefore has the only claim to existence.
You are confusing existence with influence. Santa Claus doesn’t exist either - but no doubt he has had influence (still doesn’t mean he exists). The individual, no matter how little he influenced anyone, still is/was - and therefore has the only claim to existence.
On most other threads this certainly holds true, but Miss Hepburn asks "do you think anything exists here/anywhere! What is her definition of "anywhere"? "Existence", as it were, could be explained or quantified in the abstract under these conditions.
A ping pong ball resting on a grate may not be able to be lifted with one individual underneath blowing upward on it, but get a group of individuals under the grate and you might get results. A "force" comes temporarily into existence by a collective.
An no "full of hot air" jokes if you don't mind....
Why do atheists spend their time daily arguing about the characteristics of something they claim doesn't exist?
We do not. We point out the characteristics as told in the Bible. Evil, incompetent, etc.
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