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Old Yesterday, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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Sorry mam.

Lol, don't get your toes in a twist, I am willing to admit that you can create any kinda fantasy reality you wish, most of the people I know like to invent their own history, and so you are in the majority, everyone gets to believe as they wish.
Thank you for granting me freedom.
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Old Yesterday, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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It was in response to her opinion/personal belief; it’s not necessary to ‘throw confetti in the air’ in an attempt to sidetrack attention from a simple ‘black and white’ point as it pertains to this thread. It’s her opinion/belief in a forum, which she is entitled to have.
Thank you for granting me the right to my own opinions.
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Old Yesterday, 01:53 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Thank you for granting me the right to my own opinions.
I wasn’t ‘granting’, I was respecting your right (and admittedly, it can be more difficult to do so with some people
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Old Yesterday, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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I hear ya, but sometimes it feels otherwise!
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Old Yesterday, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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I would likely try to have him committed, assuming he wasn't just high on something.
And yet that is the foundation of christianity.

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So show me this absolute "truth" or reality you speak of.
Are you for real?

Truth is universal, because it's objective, not subjective.

If you don't understand the difference between objectivity and subjectivity, take an instrument that puts ink on paper.

We can call that instrument a ball-point pen, or a kugelschreiber (German) or a stilou (Romanian), but whatever we call it does not alter its existence or function, because what we call it is subjective, meaning it's totally dependent upon us.

Earth is an object and falls in the realm of objectivity. Earth existed before you existed, will exist long after you cease to exist, and Earth's existence isn't dependent upon your existence, because if you stop thinking about Earth, the Earth just doesn't disappear.

Your thoughts, ideas and beliefs are all subjective, because they cease to exist the moment you cease to exist. Other people can have the same thoughts, ideas and beliefs as you, but that doesn't make it true.

For a very long time, about 1,500 years, everyone believed the Earth was the center of the Universe. That was later proven false, but the fact that Billions of people over the course of 1,500 years believed that didn't make it come true.

There are many universal truths, way too many for one person to even attempt to list.
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Old Today, 03:31 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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Hey, I'm not a dude! And I still don't get your comment???? And I still stand by my statement...in many ways we each create our own reality or maybe it's in many ways our own reality creates us....or did I just say the same thing?
No, we don't create 'reality'. I say the Earth is round, you say the Earth is flat. Now you can really convince yourself that the Earth is flat to the extent that you believe that it really is true, that it is real, but in fact, it's not real is it... because the only truth is that the Earth is round.
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Old Today, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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Well, i believe it's not exactly round...but anyway, we are just going to go 'round and 'round, as we are talking about two different things. I was speaking more of an "internal" reality...our experiences in life create our mind-set about life. If you grow up in a family of gangsters, you probably feel more comfortable committing crimes than someone brought up in a family of police. In general, anyway. As for "external" reality, we are limited by our senses and our brain's interpretation of the information provided by those senses. How do we know what we are seeing is a true representation of "reality"? You can say we can bring in machines to do measurements, but those measurements are still being interpreted by our limited senses and brains. IMO, we can never completely access the true nature of reality or what is being called Absolute Truth, with the limited equipment we possess and since most of the atheist posters on here will state that is the only equipment that is "real", we are where we are. Walking blindly, trying to see.
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Old Today, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Well, i believe it's not exactly round...but anyway, we are just going to go 'round and 'round, as we are talking about two different things. I was speaking more of an "internal" reality...our experiences in life create our mind-set about life. If you grow up in a family of gangsters, you probably feel more comfortable committing crimes than someone brought up in a family of police. In general, anyway. As for "external" reality, we are limited by our senses and our brain's interpretation of the information provided by those senses. How do we know what we are seeing is a true representation of "reality"? You can say we can bring in machines to do measurements, but those measurements are still being interpreted by our limited senses and brains. IMO, we can never completely access the true nature of reality or what is being called Absolute Truth, with the limited equipment we possess and since most of the atheist posters on here will state that is the only equipment that is "real", we are where we are. Walking blindly, trying to see.
Did you take the blue pill?
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Old Today, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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yep...and actually, that's a pretty good example. How do we know we aren't hallucinating all this while hooked up to machines? How do we know we are not in a computer simulation? How do we know we know it's not all a hologram? How do we know we are not the dream of Brahma? There is really no way to know....except maybe take that pill!
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Old Today, 11:44 AM
 
Location: USA
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Well, i believe it's not exactly round...but anyway, we are just going to go 'round and 'round, as we are talking about two different things. I was speaking more of an "internal" reality...our experiences in life create our mind-set about life. If you grow up in a family of gangsters, you probably feel more comfortable committing crimes than someone brought up in a family of police. In general, anyway. As for "external" reality, we are limited by our senses and our brain's interpretation of the information provided by those senses. How do we know what we are seeing is a true representation of "reality"? You can say we can bring in machines to do measurements, but those measurements are still being interpreted by our limited senses and brains. IMO, we can never completely access the true nature of reality or what is being called Absolute Truth, with the limited equipment we possess and since most of the atheist posters on here will state that is the only equipment that is "real", we are where we are. Walking blindly, trying to see.
This rings true to me.
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