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Old 03-20-2019, 03:18 AM
 
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God came into existence in His greatness and created man to worship Him
And why on earth would I want to worship a being that is so vain, egocentric, and self-absorbed - not to mention narcissistic - that he would create an entire species whose job was to stroke his ego and worship him.

I can't think of a single reason. Not a one.

Fortunately, I doubt even most Christians agree that we were created just to kiss his boots and lick his backside. He didn't even create us to kiss his lick and boot his backside. I'd love to boot his backside, actually.

Or to kiss lick his his backside boot. Or maybe boot kiss his lick backside his. Or backside boot kiss lick his his. Who knows?

But I am sooooooooo glad that I'm not caught in the religious spiderweb - with a big hairy spider lurking on the edge waiting for me to twang one of the strands just a little too hard.

That's what it's like, really. When you worship a tyrant. If you twang a strand too hard, here comes the spider, ready to suck you dry until your a dry husk. Or ... a burnt cinder in a fiery Hell.
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Old 03-20-2019, 04:18 AM
 
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Negative and ridiculing views about God and faith say more about the skeptic than anything else. They are like a spotlight on what is inside the mind of the skeptic.
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Old 03-20-2019, 05:11 AM
 
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Negative and ridiculing views about God and faith say more about the skeptic than anything else. They are like a spotlight on what is inside the mind of the skeptic.
It certainly does! And it's great knowing people like Shirina can represent those positive and admirable traits so well
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Old 03-20-2019, 05:37 AM
 
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Negative and ridiculing views about God and faith say more about the skeptic than anything else. They are like a spotlight on what is inside the mind of the skeptic.
You are absolutely correct.

When someone reads the Bible and observes that the God depicted therein is, very literally, genocidal and cruel and vindictive, and that person then refuses to chug the God-is-love Kool-Aid, it does say something about that person - in particular, their ability to perceive the obvious and their refusal to embrace delusion.
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Old 03-20-2019, 07:31 AM
 
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Negative and ridiculing views about God and faith say more about the skeptic than anything else. They are like a spotlight on what is inside the mind of the skeptic.
True. It says we are less likely to be fooled by a god that is portrayed as both ridiculous and evil.

It is also a spotlight on those religious people who attempt to defend their beliefs by 1) arguing their god can not exist, and 2) how their god must be the most evil being ever.
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Old 03-20-2019, 07:51 AM
 
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You are absolutely correct.

When someone reads the Bible and observes that the God depicted therein is, very literally, genocidal and cruel and vindictive, and that person then refuses to chug the God-is-love Kool-Aid, it does say something about that person - in particular, their ability to perceive the obvious and their refusal to embrace delusion.
No, it only shows narrowed minded lazy thinking. It is lazy to simply slap those labels on God and put a case closed clasp on the file. That's what Shrina has done. Nothing will change her mind. God is always a cruel God because of a few stories in the OT that on the surface appear unfair.


The problem with that viewpoint is that it is not compatible with the many examples of a kind giving God. Why would God give us things to enjoy if he only wants people to kiss his butt? Why give us the ability to have a laughter? Why give everyone a unique identity? And of course the biggest one of them all, why take a part of His being, come to earth in physical form and endure hours and hour of grueling intense physical torture to save our own sorry behinds?
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Old 03-20-2019, 08:10 AM
 
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No, it only shows narrowed minded lazy thinking. It is lazy to simply slap those labels on God and put a case closed clasp on the file. That's what Shrina has done. Nothing will change her mind. God is always a cruel God because of a few stories in the OT that on the surface appear unfair.


The problem with that viewpoint is that it is not compatible with the many examples of a kind giving God. Why would God give us things to enjoy if he only wants people to kiss his butt? Why give us the ability to have a laughter? Why give everyone a unique identity? And of course the biggest one of them all, why take a part of His being, come to earth in physical form and endure hours and hour of grueling intense physical torture to save our own sorry behinds?
Irony is your narrow minded lazy thinking. You yourself have pointed this out, the "problem with that viewpoint is that it is not compatible with the many examples of a kind giving God". Which is Shirina's exact point. You are agreeing with Shirina with your assertion and fictional account, you too are refuting the OT god.
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Old 03-20-2019, 08:27 AM
 
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There's also an element of wagging about all the improvements that humans have made for themselves to have a more pleasant life - and give all the credit to a god.
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Old 03-20-2019, 09:20 AM
 
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No, it only shows narrowed minded lazy thinking. It is lazy to simply slap those labels on God and put a case closed clasp on the file. That's what Shrina has done. Nothing will change her mind. God is always a cruel God because of a few stories in the OT that on the surface appear unfair.
A few stories ???
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Old 03-20-2019, 09:27 AM
 
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A few stories ???
To speak of even a few 'unfair' stories in the NT is waving a lot away; in respect of the violent and blood -soaked OT - and not what can be excused as punishing Enemies' either - it is ludicrous.
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