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Old 03-14-2019, 02:02 PM
 
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what if sex in heaven does not procreate?

However, if there is no sex in heaven and no other "earthly thing" either - then what exactly do you do for million upon million of years?
Seriously, why would there be sex in Heaven?

Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Behold, the dwelling place of God is with man. He will dwell with them, and they will be his people, and God himself will be with them as their God. He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away.” And he who was seated on the throne said, “Behold, I am making all things new.” Also he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.” Revelation 21:1-5
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Old 03-14-2019, 02:03 PM
 
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I often wonder if any two people have the same idea about heaven and/or hell
Sure. It's all in the Bible, plain as day
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Old 03-14-2019, 02:05 PM
 
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I often wonder if any two people have the same idea about heaven and/or hell
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Sure they do, the smart ones...
And I wonder how many believe they're the 'smart ones'. Betcha it's a large percentage....and all with different ideas.
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Old 03-14-2019, 02:09 PM
 
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Seriously, why would there be sex in Heaven?

Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Behold, the dwelling place of God is with man. He will dwell with them, and they will be his people, and God himself will be with them as their God. He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away.” And he who was seated on the throne said, “Behold, I am making all things new.” Also he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.” Revelation 21:1-5
Wow! No sex and all the changes?

You aren't really you anymore.

Glad the writers told me it was trustworthy and true. Without that I would have major doubts.
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Old 03-14-2019, 02:32 PM
 
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Wow! No sex and all the changes?

You aren't really you anymore.

Glad the writers told me it was trustworthy and true. Without that I would have major doubts.
Yes, we are changed - in Christ, the old is gone and the new has come.

2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come.

Take it or leave it. Up to you. God doesn't push Himself on anyone

I'd think about it though, eternity is a long time to be wrong.
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Old 03-14-2019, 02:39 PM
 
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Seriously, why would there be sex in Heaven?
I honestly hope there is no sex in heaven. That would be a real downer in my opinion.

Because it was likely mean that there would be the same competition for mates as there is in our world, the same jealousies, the same insecurities, the same rivalries that exist due to the human's voracious appetite for sex. It means best friends are torn apart, families shattered, long-time associates become impossible to find.

It is the single most over-rated thing humanity does and the hype of sex is out of all proportion to it's reality.

After all, if there is sex, does that mean there is sexual assault? Rape? Crimes of passion?

Do we have to worry about our looks? Will vanity follow us into heaven? If you were born ugly or homely, will you spend eternity without a partner?

I have frequently made mention of why I do not believe humans were created by an all-powerful god, and our sex drive in one of the reasons. The fact that god apparently created humanity without a rutting period, which means the sex drive never turns off ... ever. Apparently god thought it was more efficient to give humans a never-ending need for sex and then just hand us dozens upon dozens of rules regarding sexuality that he knew we could never follow rather than give us a body where the sex-drive is controlled via nature.

What's even more malicious is how god apparently created women to enter into menopause where her sex drive becomes extremely lessened if not altogether destroys it - while simultaneously giving men a sex-drive that never ever dies no matter how old he gets. And then makes adultery a crime punishable by death.

I mean ... LOL!

How anyone can believe this was all engineered by an intelligent and *loving* being is beyond me.

And I really don't want to end up in the Christian heaven with sex - because I would be scared to death to see what kind of horrible circumstances this sadistic god arranged for humans and their sexuality in heaven.
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Old 03-14-2019, 02:52 PM
 
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I honestly hope there is no sex in heaven. That would be a real downer in my opinion.

Because it was likely mean that there would be the same competition for mates as there is in our world, the same jealousies, the same insecurities, the same rivalries that exist due to the human's voracious appetite for sex. It means best friends are torn apart, families shattered, long-time associates become impossible to find.

It is the single most over-rated thing humanity does and the hype of sex is out of all proportion to it's reality.

After all, if there is sex, does that mean there is sexual assault? Rape? Crimes of passion?

Do we have to worry about our looks? Will vanity follow us into heaven? If you were born ugly or homely, will you spend eternity without a partner?

I have frequently made mention of why I do not believe humans were created by an all-powerful god, and our sex drive in one of the reasons. The fact that god apparently created humanity without a rutting period, which means the sex drive never turns off ... ever. Apparently god thought it was more efficient to give humans a never-ending need for sex and then just hand us dozens upon dozens of rules regarding sexuality that he knew we could never follow rather than give us a body where the sex-drive is controlled via nature.

What's even more malicious is how god apparently created women to enter into menopause where her sex drive becomes extremely lessened if not altogether destroys it - while simultaneously giving men a sex-drive that never ever dies no matter how old he gets. And then makes adultery a crime punishable by death.

I mean ... LOL!

How anyone can believe this was all engineered by an intelligent and *loving* being is beyond me.

And I really don't want to end up in the Christian heaven with sex - because I would be scared to death to see what kind of horrible circumstances this sadistic god arranged for humans and their sexuality in heaven.

No, the supply of mates of your choices is unlimited in heaven. So there is no competion and no rape. You won’t get the urge of raping anyone or getting into competition with anyone. There is no evil in heaven.

Plus, you will look and become as pretty looking as you want.

If not, it’s not deserved to be called a heaven.
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Old 03-14-2019, 03:02 PM
 
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I honestly hope there is no sex in heaven. That would be a real downer in my opinion.

Because it was likely mean that there would be the same competition for mates as there is in our world, the same jealousies, the same insecurities, the same rivalries that exist due to the human's voracious appetite for sex. It means best friends are torn apart, families shattered, long-time associates become impossible to find.

It is the single most over-rated thing humanity does and the hype of sex is out of all proportion to it's reality.

After all, if there is sex, does that mean there is sexual assault? Rape? Crimes of passion?

Do we have to worry about our looks? Will vanity follow us into heaven? If you were born ugly or homely, will you spend eternity without a partner?

I have frequently made mention of why I do not believe humans were created by an all-powerful god, and our sex drive in one of the reasons. The fact that god apparently created humanity without a rutting period, which means the sex drive never turns off ... ever. Apparently god thought it was more efficient to give humans a never-ending need for sex and then just hand us dozens upon dozens of rules regarding sexuality that he knew we could never follow rather than give us a body where the sex-drive is controlled via nature.

What's even more malicious is how god apparently created women to enter into menopause where her sex drive becomes extremely lessened if not altogether destroys it - while simultaneously giving men a sex-drive that never ever dies no matter how old he gets. And then makes adultery a crime punishable by death.

I mean ... LOL!

How anyone can believe this was all engineered by an intelligent and *loving* being is beyond me.

And I really don't want to end up in the Christian heaven with sex - because I would be scared to death to see what kind of horrible circumstances this sadistic god arranged for humans and their sexuality in heaven.
I'd think many men would beg to differ on that one.
Even Hugh Hefner needed Viagra in the end.
And how many men over 60, or even 50, are involved in rape or sex crimes?
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Old 03-14-2019, 03:15 PM
 
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I honestly hope there is no sex in heaven. That would be a real downer in my opinion.

Because it was likely mean that there would be the same competition for mates as there is in our world, the same jealousies, the same insecurities, the same rivalries that exist due to the human's voracious appetite for sex. It means best friends are torn apart, families shattered, long-time associates become impossible to find.

It is the single most over-rated thing humanity does and the hype of sex is out of all proportion to it's reality.

After all, if there is sex, does that mean there is sexual assault? Rape? Crimes of passion?

Do we have to worry about our looks? Will vanity follow us into heaven? If you were born ugly or homely, will you spend eternity without a partner?

I have frequently made mention of why I do not believe humans were created by an all-powerful god, and our sex drive in one of the reasons. The fact that god apparently created humanity without a rutting period, which means the sex drive never turns off ... ever. Apparently god thought it was more efficient to give humans a never-ending need for sex and then just hand us dozens upon dozens of rules regarding sexuality that he knew we could never follow rather than give us a body where the sex-drive is controlled via nature.

What's even more malicious is how god apparently created women to enter into menopause where her sex drive becomes extremely lessened if not altogether destroys it - while simultaneously giving men a sex-drive that never ever dies no matter how old he gets. And then makes adultery a crime punishable by death.

I mean ... LOL!

How anyone can believe this was all engineered by an intelligent and *loving* being is beyond me.

And I really don't want to end up in the Christian heaven with sex - because I would be scared to death to see what kind of horrible circumstances this sadistic god arranged for humans and their sexuality in heaven.
None of those things will be even a thought in anyone's mind in Heaven.

He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away.” Revelation 21:4

Heaven is the abode of God, and He's prepared a place there for those who believe in Him. There's no marriage, birth, death, jealousy, abuse, etc.

In my Father's house are many rooms. If it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you? John 14:2

God created us perfect. Sin came into the world through Adam and Eve and ever since, Satan has run rampant. All of the things you (rightly) describe and hate? Those are of Satan, not God.

You're right again, He did give all those rules - knowing we could never follow - to show us what sin is

What then shall we say? That the law is sin? By no means! Yet if it had not been for the law, I would not have known sin. For I would not have known what it is to covet if the law had not said, “You shall not covet.” Romans 7:7

So, He sent His Son to save us from all of that, from the condemnation of sin and eternal separation from God.

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Old 03-14-2019, 03:39 PM
 
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So many questions, and so much uncertainty.

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Because it was likely mean that there would be the same competition for mates as there is in our world, the same jealousies, the same insecurities, the same rivalries that exist due to the human's voracious appetite for sex. It means best friends are torn apart, families shattered, long-time associates become impossible to find. ...... After all, if there is sex, does that mean there is sexual assault? Rape? Crimes of passion? Do we have to worry about our looks? Will vanity follow us into heaven? If you were born ugly or homely, will you spend eternity without a partner?
Luckily, we also have so many answers, with so much certainty!

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None of those things will be even a thought in anyone's mind in Heaven.

Heaven is the abode of God, and He's prepared a place there for those who believe in Him. There's no marriage, birth, death, jealousy, abuse, etc. ....

God created us perfect. Sin came into the world through Adam and Eve and ever since, Satan has run rampant. All of the things you (rightly) describe and hate? Those are of Satan, not God.....

You're right again, He did give all those rules - knowing we could never follow - to show us what sin is...

So, He sent His Son to save us from all of that, from the condemnation of sin and eternal separation from God.
One of those is an honest, reality-based reflection of what we know and don't know. The other contains man-made explanations for things we have absolutely no way of knowing. Guess which is which?
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