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Old 06-14-2019, 12:01 PM
 
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Maybe so, but if I am not "me" in heaven (meaning the same "me" that enjoys the same things), then what is the point? I am not too keen on becoming someone else in the afterlife, simply because I lack a body. If you know what I mean?
But ALL that comprises YOU and all the pleasures (and pains) that you experience are in your consciousness (Spirit) so I suspect they will still be there in some way.
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Old 06-14-2019, 12:53 PM
 
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But ALL that comprises YOU and all the pleasures (and pains) that you experience are in your consciousness (Spirit) so I suspect they will still be there in some way.
I would say its more like a node than reproducing.
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Old 06-14-2019, 01:06 PM
 
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Not very well. They keep complaining of headaches.
Ahhh... you have to try massages, neck massages, to relieve that. Who knows where that may lead.
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Old 06-14-2019, 01:19 PM
 
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But ALL that comprises YOU and all the pleasures (and pains) that you experience are in your consciousness (Spirit) so I suspect they will still be there in some way.
they are there, its just its not "me" that is experiencing them.

but the universe is. and there is just no scientifically sound way around that fact.
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Old 06-16-2019, 09:44 PM
 
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But ALL that comprises YOU and all the pleasures (and pains) that you experience are in your consciousness (Spirit) so I suspect they will still be there in some way.
Doesnt that conflict with your own believes?

You said something along the lines that in heaven we are in the form of spirits and all that sex and carnal thingies won’t be there anymore.

But now, you are saying that our spirits (in the hereafter) will experience the same pleasures (and pains) in some way, as we do now (which includes sex).

So how come there won’t be any sex in heaven?

I think there will be quite a lot of sex in heaven. May be YOU can choose not to have any?
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Old 06-16-2019, 09:48 PM
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Location: Ontario, Canada
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Doesnt that conflict with your own believes?

You said something along the lines that in heaven we are in the form of spirits and all that sex and carnal thingies won’t be there anymore.

But now, you are saying that our spirits (in the hereafter) will experience the same pleasures (and pains) in some way, as we do now (which includes sex).

So how come there won’t be any sex in heaven?

I think there will be quite a lot of sex in heaven. May be YOU can choose not to have any?
I think it's kind of sad that you - a supposedly grown man - have a 14-year-old boy's hopes for heaven.
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Old 06-16-2019, 11:13 PM
 
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I think it's kind of sad that you - a supposedly grown man - have a 14-year-old boy's hopes for heaven.
Please enlighten us with YOUR hopes of heaven.
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Old 06-17-2019, 12:35 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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I didn't reply because the answer was contained in the quote from Ezekiel...They were haughty and did detestable things before me.
Yes. I know what it says. I'm asking you why you think 'haughty' and 'detestable things' equate to 'sexual deviancy'?

There is absolutely NOTHING there that mentions sexual deviancy. You made it up! The 'sin' of S+G and the reason it was destroyed (according to your bible) was because the residents were arrogant, inhospitable, had no concern for the needy and did 'detestable things'. How do you know that 'detestable things' didn't mean picking their noses, scratching their arses, spitting, farting, beating their wives or children, cruelty to animals, lying, stealing...or a thousand other things that have absolutely nothing to do with 'sexual deviancy'?
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Old 06-17-2019, 02:26 AM
 
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Doesnt that conflict with your own beliefs?
No. I said the pleasures would exist because they were experienced in your consciousness. You assumed the source would be flesh, not me.
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Old 06-17-2019, 04:21 AM
 
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Please enlighten us with YOUR hopes of heaven.
we don't have "hopes for heaven". we look around us, describe what we see, and based our predictions on those observations.

we understand that "hope for heaven" relieves the angst of death. We do not say people that don't think our god is real is not going there based on a statement of belief about that god like some fundy theist do.

why do you let fundy think types tell people they going to a place like "heaven" only when they believe in your god?
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