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No, and I have no idea why you thought so. I have been divorced for many years, and my exh would never be mistaken for a pastor.
I'm sorry. I must have you confused with someone else. I really am sorry---it was an honest mistake.
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I know what the Bible says about sex outside of marriage. I addressed that in my post. Those rules were written by men for their own reasons.
Those rules were inspired by God. History has shown when we obey God's rules everyone benefits. Including women. Today, we are told that marriage is not required, and we see single parenthood at an epidemic high. Women are being mistreated as a result of the open sex movement. Men are pigs...and when they are not held accountable....women lose.
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I believe God is more concerned with how human beings treat one another than he is about what we do with our physical selves. Same reason I don't think God has a problem with gay people. It is not important. Only people are so concerned about who is doing what with whom. It's a distraction from what really matters.
What do you base that on? The Bible doesn't teach it. We've seen from society that it doesn't benefit women.
I mean honestly who knows,but do you think there is passion and sex in heaven or do you think it's very saintly and pure all the time.I mean I'm trying to decide if I want to go there,and if there's no sex then I might give it a miss.
I'm sorry. I must have you confused with someone else. I really am sorry---it was an honest mistake.
Those rules were inspired by God. History has shown when we obey God's rules everyone benefits. Including women. Today, we are told that marriage is not required, and we see single parenthood at an epidemic high. Women are being mistreated as a result of the open sex movement. Men are pigs...and when they are not held accountable....women lose.
What do you base that on? The Bible doesn't teach it. We've seen from society that it doesn't benefit women.
I'm sorry. I must have you confused with someone else. I really am sorry---it was an honest mistake.
No problem. That happens on these types of forums.
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Those rules were inspired by God. History has shown when we obey God's rules everyone benefits. Including women. Today, we are told that marriage is not required, and we see single parenthood at an epidemic high. Women are being mistreated as a result of the open sex movement. Men are pigs...and when they are not held accountable....women lose.
Kind of slamming your own gender there, BF.
But the rules you refer to as God's rules were not beneficial to women, either. They were property. That mindset still exists, and sometimes in the minds of women themselves. The answer is not to put women back in the cattle category but to help them understand that they are worth more than what a man values them to be.
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What do you base that on? The Bible doesn't teach it. We've seen from society that it doesn't benefit women.
Using my God-given ability to reason, I base it on the difference between the nature of God and the nature of humanity. While I don't claim to know everything about the nature of God, I do know quite a bit about the nature of humanity just from almost 60 years of living and watching.
Those rules were inspired by God. History has shown when we obey God's rules everyone benefits. Including women. Today, we are told that marriage is not required, and we see single parenthood at an epidemic high. Women are being mistreated as a result of the open sex movement. Men are pigs...and when they are not held accountable....women lose.
I don't know so much, Baptist. I would think that women in the Western world have never had it so good.
Sex has always been 'open'. Women have always been abused (not every woman of course). You might want to research how women are treated in some African societies and those are societies strictly governed by religious 'God inspired' rules (although not all). You've heard of female genital mutilation?
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But the rules you refer to as God's rules were not beneficial to women, either. They were property. That mindset still exists, and sometimes in the minds of women themselves. The answer is not to put women back in the cattle category but to help them understand that they are worth more than what a man values them to be.
No problem. That happens on these types of forums.
Thank you for understanding. Obviously, my responses to you MIGHT look different if I think you're a pastor's wife.
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Kind of slamming your own gender there, BF.
My gender deserves it at times.
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But the rules you refer to as God's rules were not beneficial to women, either. They were property. That mindset still exists, and sometimes in the minds of women themselves. The answer is not to put women back in the cattle category but to help them understand that they are worth more than what a man values them to be.
In OT times, yes--the culture treated women as chattle. That doesn't mean that God considers women to be worthless, nor does it suggest that women should be mistreated. God gave Eve to Adam as a blessing. Men should love their wives and treat them as equal partners.
Far too often, women are mistreated by men. And they allow it to happen. When men are not held accountable, women lose.
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Using my God-given ability to reason, I base it on the difference between the nature of God and the nature of humanity. While I don't claim to know everything about the nature of God, I do know quite a bit about the nature of humanity just from almost 60 years of living and watching.
Even when the Bible actually gives rules by which to live?
I don't know so much, Baptist. I would think that women in the Western world have never had it so good.
Sex has always been 'open'. Women have always been abused (not every woman of course). You might want to research how women are treated in some African societies and those are societies strictly governed by religious 'God inspired' rules (although not all). You've heard of female genital mutilation?
You do realize the Bible never commands such a practice, right? That is a horrible practice.
Fact is, the sexual revolution in America has resulted in single motherhood, and women being mistreated. Women are a gift from God, and men should treat them as blessings. They are not put here just to please men or serve us. But the sexual revolution that teaches sex without strings attached promotes that.
Thank you for understanding. Obviously, my responses to you MIGHT look different if I think you're a pastor's wife.
My gender deserves it at times.
In OT times, yes--the culture treated women as chattle. That doesn't mean that God considers women to be worthless, nor does it suggest that women should be mistreated. God gave Eve to Adam as a blessing. Men should love their wives and treat them as equal partners.
Far too often, women are mistreated by men. And they allow it to happen. When men are not held accountable, women lose.
Even when the Bible actually gives rules by which to live?
Yes, because I don't think they were God's rules, but men's rules. Control over natural behavior that is not harmful to anyone but is advantageous to one group over another has "human" written all over it.
Yes, because I don't think they were God's rules, but men's rules. Control over natural behavior that is not harmful to anyone but is advantageous to one group over another has "human" written all over it.
I guess "harmful" depends on the beholder? Because where I'm sitting, there sure are a lot of bad things in our society that are directly related to the idea of free and open sex.
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