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No, it's not clever. It the use of simple basic logic.
OK, So please tell me what exactly is a miracle, and how to you validate it?
Let's just stick to the "miracles of Jesus".
The second half of your last sentence is the problem. You cannot validate it. You just want people to believe it on faith. And for many of us, the answer is quite simple -- no, we won't just believe it.
I am now Buddhist. That doesn't mean that I believe in everything in the Tipitaka or the Dhammapada.
What do you think was God's origins? Who or what created the creator?
There really only seem to be two possibilities when considering the origins of God. One is that he was created by an earlier creator God. Zeus, for example, was believed to be the child of the Titans Kronos and Rhea, who were themselves the creations of the earth and sky. And who created the earth and sky? This is unknown. But it leads to the obvious problem of an infinite regression of creators Beings. It doesn't really answer the question of origins.
The second possibility is that God has always existed. There was no "in the beginning," because there has always been God. What God was doing for the eternity before He decided to create our universe is unknown. But is this logical or even possible?
Well, yes and no. What we actually observe is that the conditions that prevail in the universe are determined by matter, and matter is simply a form of energy as stated in E=MC². And all experimentation with the various forms of energy have consistently shown that energy cannot either be created or destroyed. Which has led to the establishment of the law of conservation of energy. Energy can neither be created or destroyed. If energy can neither be created or destroyed, then it is eternal by definition. Which means that the existence of something eternal is both logical and possible. The difference between energy and the God of Abraham is that there is no uncertainty about the existence of energy, because energy is matter and the earth and moon and stars and humans are all made of matter. God on the other hand appears to be entirely the creation of the human imagination. No such Being is actually observed to exist, only proposed and declared to be true.
It is certainly possible to worship energy as the ultimate creator of all things I suppose. But there is no real reason to suppose that energy cares one way or the other.
There really only seem to be two possibilities when considering the origins of God. One is that he was created by an earlier creator God. Zeus, for example, was believed to be the child of the Titans Kronos and Rhea, who were themselves the creations of the earth and sky. And who created the earth and sky? This is unknown. But it leads to the obvious problem of an infinite regression of creators Beings. It doesn't really answer the question of origins.
The second possibility is that God has always existed. There was no "in the beginning," because there has always been God. What God was doing for the eternity before He decided to create our universe is unknown. But is this logical or even possible?
Well, yes and no. What we actually observe is that the conditions that prevail in the universe are determined by matter, and matter is simply a form of energy as stated in E=MC². And all experimentation with the various forms of energy have consistently shown that energy cannot either be created or destroyed. Which has led to the establishment of the law of conservation of energy. Energy can neither be created or destroyed. If energy can neither be created or destroyed, then it is eternal by definition. Which means that the existence of something eternal is both logical and possible. The difference between energy and the God of Abraham is that there is no uncertainty about the existence of energy, because energy is matter and the earth and moon and stars and humans are all made of matter. God on the other hand appears to be entirely the creation of the human imagination. No such Being is actually observed to exist, only proposed and declared to be true.
It is certainly possible to worship energy as the ultimate creator of all things I suppose. But there is no real reason to suppose that energy cares one way or the other.
You seem to have forgotten another obvious possibility.
No, it's not clever. It the use of simple basic logic.
OK, So please tell me what exactly is a miracle, and how to you validate it?
A true miracle would be an event which clearly and unequivocally violates the known laws of physics. Not something which simply forces us to modify our understanding of physics, but actually contradicts our understanding of the known laws of physics, as magic claims to do for example. Magic of course has always proven to be trickery, and not the actual contradiction of the laws of physics. Miracles have never been shown to be anything other than misinterpretation or lack of basic understanding of things which were declared to be "miraculous" because their cause was not understood. In truth there has never been a single example of a genuine miracle, only tall tales and human ignorance.
You invalidate a "miracle" by demonstrating that its causes were entirely natural rather than supernatural, and were not a violation of the laws of physics.
You seem to have forgotten another obvious possibility.
Well I stated that God appears to be entirely created by the human imagination. If God is the nothing more than a creation of human imagination than no such God has ever existed to begin with. God was either created or has always existed. What possibility have I forgotten?
Well I stated that God appears to be entirely created by the human imagination. If God is the nothing more than a creation of human imagination than no such God has ever existed to begin with. God was either created or has always existed. What possibility have I forgotten?
I missed that. My apologies. And that is exactly right.
To answer OP, God us eternal. He exusts outside of our tgree diminsional world including time.
That answer would satisfy most non-inquisitive children around the age of 11 or 12.
Doesn't work for the rest of us.
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