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It’s only when someone is influenced by the Holy Spirit that the scripture comes to life.
John 6:24
"No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day.” -Jesus
But you say we need the bible to understand Jesus and the Holy Spirit..that without the bible we are doomed and only the bible can give us understanding so why do we need the Holy Spirit?
But you say we need the bible to understand Jesus and the Holy Spirit..that without the bible we are doomed and only the bible can give us understanding so why do we need the Holy Spirit?
I’ve never said the bolded.
The Holy Spirit and the holy scriptures come from the same source, God the Father.
Not all Christians are condemning. Even most fundamentalists aren't.
But all evangelicals are nothing but pure condemnation. In fact, that is all that comprises them. Condemnation is their only attribute.
Fundamentalist Christians are a subset of evangelicals, and in general, the most strident subset. So I'm not sure how you manage to let fundamentalists off the hook and then condemn the encompassing group. Maybe you have an idiosyncratic definition for one or both.
I do not think every single fundamentalist, much less evangelical, are primarily condemning. Indeed, they all generally pay at least lip service to grace over legalism, love over authoritarianism. They have a self-image as kind, loving, leave-the-judging-to-god kinds of people. They are generally blind to how their ideology and conduct toward Others belies their carefully constructed self-image. That is one of the many reasons they react to any and all observations contrary to their self-image with projection and charges of meanness, rudeness and persecution. I think this is one of the major ways that authoritarian / literalist / inerrantist Christianity survives -- it teaches and systemically supports small, mean, unkind behavior while allowing people to think of it and themselves as big-hearted, gentle, kind folk.
All that said, I've known a small minority of fundamentalists who actually live in a way that matches their self-image and generally shows up most of their brethren's hypocrisy. One elderly couple I know well, serve as the de facto center of gravity of their church. If you want truly sage advice, real loving support, or want to get actual good works done, you bypass the official church leadership and go to this couple. They might be termed spiritual power brokers in their community.
you have stated we KNOW nothing without the bible..if we know nothing, are we not doomed?
I said you would know nothing about Jesus without scripture.
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