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Old 02-06-2018, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Booth Texas
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Sort of, it seems to work different for everyone. For me, it saved my life, I can take 8mg per day and never feel an urge to use any other drug.

Suboxone does not get you 'high, but it does make you feel normal again, and to some users that have forgotten what normal feels like, it does resemble a 'high' in that regard.

BTW, if you are taking Suboxone and use another drug with it, the combination will send you into instant withdrawl, and you will be sicker than a dog! It binds to the opioid receptors and doesnt let any other drugs latch on.
I wouldn't have any idea what normal is, the closest I ever come is the first hour I wake up, but we all know drugs linger even when you don't feel high. The effects linger with weed also, I would have to quit smoking for a week to feel what normal feels like and even then, I would not know. I wouldn't know because I never sleep. My life is spent awake, and when I get 4 hours, it is like a dream come true, but it still isn't what normal feels like with 8 hours of sleep every day. In any average month, I may get 60 to 70 hours of sleep, I am always tired.
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Old 02-07-2018, 11:11 AM
 
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If you go down that path, start with a small amount, like a gram. I've heard the ideal amount is something like 3.5 grams or you could just blast into orbit like Terrance McKenna and do his "heroic dose" of 5 grams.

But seriously, start with a small amount, because it can get pretty overwhelming if you are not used to the effects.

Also, as mentioned earlier in the thread: Know your source.
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Old 02-08-2018, 09:04 AM
 
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If you go down that path, start with a small amount, like a gram. I've heard the ideal amount is something like 3.5 grams or you could just blast into orbit like Terrance McKenna and do his "heroic dose" of 5 grams.

But seriously, start with a small amount, because it can get pretty overwhelming if you are not used to the effects.

Also, as mentioned earlier in the thread: Know your source.
Its so hard to give people advise on this topic, especially if its their first time using it. I remember my first time using acid, I took one dose of red dragon LSD at a friends house and didnt really feel anything an hour later, I was thinking it was fake and we had been duped, so I decided to walk home ( I was around 15-16 yr old), half way home it finally kicked in, but I didnt recognize what was happening, it was around christmas so all the lights on the houses kept me occupied, I think it took me 2 hours to walk home that night! I ended up being awake all night tripping hard by myself.
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Old 02-08-2018, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Divided Tribes of America
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So what’s more fun? A panic attack or psychedelic drugs? I’ve had plenty of experience with the former; none with the latter.
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Old 02-08-2018, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Northeastern US
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So whatís more fun? A panic attack or psychedelic drugs? Iíve had plenty of experience with the former; none with the latter.
From what I gather it depends on whether the trip is "good" or "bad" which in turn depends on the quality / purity of the drug and accurate measure of the dosage (and doubtless on one's individual biochemistry interacting therewith). As one poster said, "know your source", but I'm not sure what that even means. Can sources for illicit drugs ever really be trusted in the sense that they control the whole supply chain and spot test / check all their product? I kind of doubt it. And there's a LOT of incentive to "cut" the drugs with fillers or substitutes and claim it's pure and charge accordingly, at each step of the distribution process.

For that reason alone I don't know that I'd ever try anything beyond legally obtained pot. The risk of bad trip / permanent effects / death are too great, especially given that I don't see any huge benefits to motivate me to take said risks.
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Old 02-09-2018, 07:14 AM
 
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From what I gather it depends on whether the trip is "good" or "bad" which in turn depends on the quality / purity of the drug and accurate measure of the dosage (and doubtless on one's individual biochemistry interacting therewith). As one poster said, "know your source", but I'm not sure what that even means. Can sources for illicit drugs ever really be trusted in the sense that they control the whole supply chain and spot test / check all their product? I kind of doubt it. And there's a LOT of incentive to "cut" the drugs with fillers or substitutes and claim it's pure and charge accordingly, at each step of the distribution process.

For that reason alone I don't know that I'd ever try anything beyond legally obtained pot. The risk of bad trip / permanent effects / death are too great, especially given that I don't see any huge benefits to motivate me to take said risks.
A good or bad trip has more to do with your mental/ emotional state of mind when you take the drug, as well as people that are with you during the trip. A good trip can turn bad in a heartbeat too, Ive seen my best friend strapped to a gurney and taken to the hospital when 3 hours earlier, he was laughing and joking and having a great trip. Its different for everyone, the slightest thing can have HUGE effects on the trip.

From my experience, the source has never been a problem.
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Old 02-09-2018, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Divided Tribes of America
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A good or bad trip has more to do with your mental/ emotional state of mind when you take the drug, as well as people that are with you during the trip. A good trip can turn bad in a heartbeat too, Ive seen my best friend strapped to a gurney and taken to the hospital when 3 hours earlier, he was laughing and joking and having a great trip. Its different for everyone, the slightest thing can have HUGE effects on the trip.

From my experience, the source has never been a problem.
Don’t make major life decisions based on anecdotes.

In my experience, eating lots of Polish sausage doesn’t contribute to heart disease.
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