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Old 01-01-2018, 01:54 PM
 
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And I was pointing out the claim that Aramaic was not used in the OT was incorrect, and secondly, that clearly there are editorial changes/additions made to a book that is suppose to be 'infallible word of God'.
Yes, you did point that out. However, you were wrong about Ezra being mostly written in Aramaic. There's nothing wrong with being wrong as long as you are willing to admit it and learn from it.

And no, you did not bring up the issue of editorial changes in your reply to Mr5150 in post #12 which my reply to you in post #14 is based on. You made it a new issue in your reply to me in post #15. But my only business with you is concerning your error in post #12 and correcting it.

 
Old 01-01-2018, 02:07 PM
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Yes, you did point that out. However, you were wrong about Ezra being mostly written in Aramaic. There's nothing wrong with being wrong as long as you are willing to admit it and learn from it.

And no, you did not bring up the issue of editorial changes in your reply to Mr5150 in post #12 which my reply to you in post #14 is based on. You made it a new issue in your reply to me in post #15. But my only business with you is concerning your error in post #12 and correcting it.
So you are aware then that I did make two points.
  • Aramaic was used in the OT
  • That use shows that editorial changes/additions were made, which of course is contrary to admonitions in both Deuteronomy and repeated in Revelations.

So, the 'perfect book' isn't all that perfect.
 
Old 01-01-2018, 02:25 PM
 
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Yes, you did point that out. However, you were wrong about Ezra being mostly written in Aramaic. There's nothing wrong with being wrong as long as you are willing to admit it and learn from it.

And no, you did not bring up the issue of editorial changes in your reply to Mr5150 in post #12 which my reply to you in post #14 is based on. You made it a new issue in your reply to me in post #15. But my only business with you is concerning your error in post #12 and correcting it.
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So you are aware then that I did make two points.
  • Aramaic was used in the OT
  • That use shows that editorial changes/additions were made, which of course is contrary to admonitions in both Deuteronomy and repeated in Revelations.

So, the 'perfect book' isn't all that perfect.
I'm aware that you made it a new issue which you had not originally made in your reply to Mr5150.

As I told you, my only business with you was to correct your error which you seem unable or unwilling to own up to. It's hardly logical to argue for the inerrancy of the Bible with someone who doesn't even believe in God, or at least not the God of the Bible.

Instead of trying to distance yourself from the fact that you were wrong about the book of Ezra being written mostly in Aramaic, just admit that you were wrong and leave it at that. If you can't, then that's on you. And I am going to leave it at that.
 
Old 01-01-2018, 09:09 PM
 
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Default How many Gods exist in the Christian religion

One.
 
Old 01-01-2018, 09:48 PM
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One.
Soooo.... Elohim means nothing then?
 
Old 01-04-2018, 11:54 AM
 
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Only Three: the Father, Father, and Father.
 
Old 01-04-2018, 04:26 PM
 
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Is the holy spirit a god?
 
Old 01-05-2018, 01:43 AM
 
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Is the holy spirit a god?
No.
The holy spirit is neither god nor God but it comes from God. This is why the Christians do not worship the holy spirit but worship God.

We all know that the Christians worship One God but the mistake made in the 4th or 5th century of regarding One God as three co-equal persons has not been eradicated. The more they explained about the three co-equal persons the more they complicated it. They should have simply left it to Mark 12:29.
 
Old 01-05-2018, 06:40 AM
 
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No.
The holy spirit is neither god nor God but it comes from God. This is why the Christians do not worship the holy spirit but worship God.

We all know that the Christians worship One God but the mistake made in the 4th or 5th century of regarding One God as three co-equal persons has not been eradicated. The more they explained about the three co-equal persons the more they complicated it. They should have simply left it to Mark 12:29.
Actually, yes. The Holy Spirit is God. He is a "person", in that he has a will, he can act, he can have desires. He can be lied to. He does things and is described in ways a person is described.

But there is ONLY 1 God, and He has said he won't share his glory with others. So the only logical conclusion is the 3 persons in one God.
 
Old 01-05-2018, 06:43 AM
 
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Is the holy spirit a god?
The Bible states that the Holy Spirit is God just as it says that the Father is God and that Jesus is God.

I will back up that statement.

First, in Acts 5:3-4 Peter says to Ananias that he has lied to the Holy Spirit and in doing so has not lied to men but has lied to God.

Secondly, Romans 8:26-27 shows that the Holy Spirit has a mind and that He intercedes 'for the saints.'
The fact that the Holy Spirit is said to have a mind indicates personhood rather than simply being a force. Further, the statement ''He who knows what the mind of the Spirit is'' shows a distinction between ''He'' who is God, and the Spirit whose mind 'He' knows. In that statement, two 'persons' both of whom are God, are shown.

In John 16:13 the Holy Spirit speaks and hears which further demonstrates personhood rather than being a force from God.

In John 15:26 Jesus said that He will send the Holy Spirit (referred to as the Spirit of truth in the verse) from the Father. In that verse all three persons who elsewhere are called God, are shown.


It is because of statements in the Bible such as those that the early church struggled for centuries to define the relationship between God the Father, the Son who is called God, and the Holy Spirit who is said to be God. Eventually, the term Latin word 'trinitas' from which we get the word 'trinity' was used to define that relationship.

Therefore yes, according to the Bible the Holy Spirit is, not ''a god'', but God, just as Jesus is said to be, and just as the Father is. One God in three 'persons.'

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