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Old 01-06-2018, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Walt Disney World
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Yeah, but what if a person is born into Religion A and stays there, and another person is born into Religion B and converts to Religion A? To me, you're saying that "thinking about" one's beliefs should logically result in changing them. The person who was born into Religion A and stayed there didn't necessarily "just accept what others told him to believe." That kind of rationale has never made sense to me, because it seems to be assuming that the person who converts is inherently a deeper thinker and less likely to have been "brainwashed" than the person who doesn't. Isn't it the end result that matters?
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Old 01-07-2018, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Gettysburg, PA
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I suppose not. I was raised Catholic, then converted to atheism when I was around 18. Then I converted to Christianity when I was 32. So just one time in essence, since atheism isn't a religion; however, I've changed belief systems twice: once to atheism, then the next time to Christianity.
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Old 01-07-2018, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Booth Texas
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Have you converted from one religion to another more than once in your life?
Yes, from Baptist to Pentecostal 35 years, and then I converted to Judaism, and I call myself, '' The true Christian.'' I no longer believe anything I believed in when I was a Pentecostal. I spoke in tongues all those years, and I believed much different than I believe now.
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Old 01-07-2018, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Booth Texas
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nope. I was a pagan and then i got saved.
lol
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Old 01-08-2018, 01:11 AM
 
Location: 'greater' Buffalo, NY
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Nope. I was a pagan and then I got saved.
Are you one of those people who use 'pagan' as a synonym for 'heathen'? The latter is also a bit obsolete these days, but I more readily associate the latter with 'nonbeliever'--not even sure if I'm right to do that, 'technically'.
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Old 01-08-2018, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Booth Texas
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Are you one of those people who use 'pagan' as a synonym for 'heathen'? The latter is also a bit obsolete these days, but I more readily associate the latter with 'nonbeliever'--not even sure if I'm right to do that, 'technically'.
I was laughing because his entire worship system is pagan. God has his own worship system full of Sabbaths and feasts and traditions, and everyone else has their own worship system not of God, meaning, they are pagan. A pagan is as a pagan does. It's like a Muslim who rejected all the holy days and traditions of Islam to then accept all the holy days and traditions of Hinduism, but he still calls himself a Muslim. Christians keep all the pagan ways of Babylon and Rome in adultery and idolatry as they reject all the holy days of Jesus, and they still claim to be Christian when their hands keep everything of Paganism. Conversion is conversion, when you accept all the holy days, traditions and rituals of a religion, YOU HAVE CONVERTED, and so why would a Pagan Christian still claim to be a Christian when everything he does, proves he is still a Pagan?
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Old 01-09-2018, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Northeastern US
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Are you one of those people who use 'pagan' as a synonym for 'heathen'? The latter is also a bit obsolete these days, but I more readily associate the latter with 'nonbeliever'--not even sure if I'm right to do that, 'technically'.
Yeah somehow I can't envision anyone attracted to the Baptist version of Christianity literally being an observant former pagan. Although it's not impossible, of course.

More likely he isn't aware that paganism is an actual religion or what its tenets would be, and is misusing the term as synonymous with "heathen". But let's see what he says.
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Old 01-09-2018, 01:48 PM
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Are you one of those people who use 'pagan' as a synonym for 'heathen'? The latter is also a bit obsolete these days, but I more readily associate the latter with 'nonbeliever'--not even sure if I'm right to do that, 'technically'.
I was someone that worshiped a false god of my own creation. I believed that this god would accept me into heaven if I was good enough. Then, I met Jesus. He saved me by his work completely, not mine.
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Old 01-09-2018, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Northeastern US
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I was someone that worshiped a false god of my own creation. I believed that this god would accept me into heaven if I was good enough. Then, I met Jesus. He saved me by his work completely, not mine.
Then you were not a pagan, unless you were a nature worshipper.

This god you "created" ... was it essentially (from your current perspective) a perversion of the god you now worship but with works in place of grace? Just curious.
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Old 01-09-2018, 02:31 PM
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Then you were not a pagan, unless you were a nature worshipper.

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This god you "created" ... was it essentially (from your current perspective) a perversion of the god you now worship but with works in place of grace? Just curious.
Yes. I even called him "Jesus".
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