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Old 01-07-2018, 10:17 AM
 
Location: minnesota
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#IAmThe20%

You're way more rare then that Geekie.
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Old 01-07-2018, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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What Is The Future Of Religion? - A Worldwide Religious Awakening

Here is the article.

In addition, the number of atheists are in decline, as atheists tend to have fewer children than religious people. Religious 'nones' projected to decline as share of world population | Pew Research Center

Actually it it is a majority of people in US prisons are Christian, however it is a trend esp for Black prisoners to convert to Islam there. Europe is the same with its Blacks as well on the trend for converting to Islam in Prisons.
Sorry, not interested in an article from a clearly biased source.
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Old 01-07-2018, 05:31 PM
 
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Sorry, not interested in an article from a clearly biased source.
I think PEW deserves more credit that than that.

The Pew Research Center is a nonpartisan American think tank based in Washington, D.C. It provides information on social issues, public opinion, and demographic trends shaping the United States and the world.[2] It also conducts public opinion polling, demographic research, media content analysis, and other empirical social science research. The Pew Research Center does not take explicit policy positions, and is a subsidiary of The Pew Charitable Trusts.(Wiki)

We will tend to Interpret the data to support our preferences, but it is just one bit of the information coming in, and we just have to note the apparent trends and await the next bit of research.
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Old 01-07-2018, 06:20 PM
 
Location: Northeastern US
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"Ignore the data from 1949, and trust me even though I show nothing to support my claims about the present day."
But ... but ... he's a distinguished professor of social science!

I will give him a little straw to cling to though: there is some validity to the notion that just because young people don't go to church, doesn't mean they won't eventually adopt some of those affiliations later in life, when they have kids and so forth. It reminds me of a group I used to belong to, of theater pipe organ enthusiasts. They have been hand-wringing since the 1950s that there aren't enough young people involved, but guess what, it's something that suits the tastes (and financial and time resources) of older people and there are always people "aging into" those kinds of groups. The assumption that the group is going to die out with the current generation of oldsters is generally incorrect. There is always a new generation, it just isn't always equivalent to the young generation.

However, now that I've held out a little hope, I'm going to dash it: two and three and four generations ago, I do not think anyone needed an apologetic for "young people leaving in droves" because it wasn't happening. For one thing young people can no longer find decent paying jobs without a college education, and a college education is known to turn young people far more liberal even when it doesn't cause them to realize that there's no evidence for the authoritarian believe-or-burn style of god.

So you have a two-pronged problem: young people just plain leaving, sure, but also, young people becoming less interested in dogma. For the latter group, the way out of theism is through it. Over several generations or less, they will be, from the viewpoint of their fundamentalist forebears, mere cultural Christians.
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Old 01-07-2018, 06:20 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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I think PEW deserves more credit that than that.

The Pew Research Center is a nonpartisan American think tank based in Washington, D.C. It provides information on social issues, public opinion, and demographic trends shaping the United States and the world.[2] It also conducts public opinion polling, demographic research, media content analysis, and other empirical social science research. The Pew Research Center does not take explicit policy positions, and is a subsidiary of The Pew Charitable Trusts.(Wiki)

We will tend to Interpret the data to support our preferences, but it is just one bit of the information coming in, and we just have to note the apparent trends and await the next bit of research.
I'm not talking about Pew. I'm talking about the John Templeton Foundation, as referred to in the opening post's link. I think Pew does a reasonably good job. I think Templeton is P-yew.
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Old 01-07-2018, 06:23 PM
 
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We're supposed to just believe you? You can't cite the survey?

But even if that data is reasonably correct, so what?

After all, around 80% of convicts are religious, most being Christian.
If a reformed convict becomes religious, I would consider that a good thing.
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Old 01-07-2018, 06:26 PM
 
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Also, I see religion as people acknowledging a force inside of themselves that they cannot explain. Literally, an inner strength that anyone else can access as well. I have no problem calling that force God. It is as real as they claim it to be.
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Old 01-07-2018, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Northeastern US
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Also, I see religion as people acknowledging a force inside of themselves that they cannot explain. Literally, an inner strength that anyone else can access as well. I have no problem calling that force God. It is as real as they claim it to be.
Yes it's currently popular to call things god that we have perfectly good and far more accurate words for -- the universe, existence, life, love, personal character and fortitude and the like. It's understandable in the sense that theists are probably getting a little big fatigued making a case for god, so why not point to something that clearly exists and just relabel it ... it's a way to save a little face. ;-)
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Old 01-07-2018, 07:22 PM
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Location: Anderson, IN
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You're way more rare then that Geekie.
Aww...thanks L8! *hugs*
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Old 01-07-2018, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Booth Texas
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I have never even met an Atheist in real life, I am not sure they exist, everyone I have ever known believes in some kind of spirituality, I would say 90 percent of people are religious and I think that is a conservative view.
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