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Old 01-29-2018, 09:21 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Is this a Battlestar Galactica question or a Game of Thrones issue?
Come on.

We are not trying to be THIS ^ realistic.
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Old 01-30-2018, 07:48 AM
 
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Yep, different babe every night, in contrast to no sex in heaven. Make your pick, boy!
No body goes to heaven. Stays in the earth or destroyed.
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Old 01-31-2018, 08:49 AM
 
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Even Sanskrit is older than that. Tamil even more older. And who speaks Sumerian now?
From the Brittanica


Sumerian language, language isolate and the oldest written language in existence
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Old 02-05-2018, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Deepest Darkest NZ
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Ahura Mazda is still about!
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Old 02-22-2018, 07:26 PM
 
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It came upon me that there apparently is a trend to return old gods back to power.
Clarification: by power, I mean - return them back to being worshiped. As they are only as powerful as amount of the "worship energy" they receive.
Look at media. TV shows. Movies. You likely can name more than I can. Avengers, for example. American Gods. Magicians. Perry something, whatever that flick was. Hercules and so on.
I get it, those tunes were around about always but! Now they are abundant. Kids watch. Minds open. Ideas seeded. Egregores created.
Overtone Windows in place and motion.
can you talk more on "overtone windows" ?

and can egregores ever work in a positive way for good, examples?
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Old 02-23-2018, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Deep Dirty South
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Not really - human conciousness and perception of "God" does not start with 35 million gods in Hinduism, including a cow, monkey, elephant, rat, snake, a female figure with 10 arms and 8 legs etc.

It starts with the first human that walked on earth - and that's the God of Adam and Abraham.
This is way before Hindu gods came on the scene.
This may have been brought up in a subsequent post, but Hinduism is not technically polytheistic. More accurately it is hentotheistic--there is One Supreme Godhead or ultimate reality of which all their other gods are a reflection.

The representation of various gods as demi-animals or fantastic creatures isn't meant to represent what any of them look like but developed as a means to focus prayer and such.

Similarly, Hinduism teaches that just as each individual drop of water from an ocean contains the qualities of the entire ocean, so each individual person is a microcosm of the cosmos entire.

Also, many scholars consider Hinduism to be the oldest religion still practiced today.

This is not intended to be an argument for or against this or that religion or deitie(s) but rather an illustration of how all religions contain some Truth and Beauty and worthwhile philosophy.

It's useless to argue that Yahweh or Odin or Zeus or Vishnu or some pantheon of gods is "real" or "The One True" anything, as they are all, ultimately, humanized reflections of some much greater, overarching reality of which we "know" very little, at least while we are trapped in this temporary, very limited three-dimensional existence.

I spent 47 years as an agnostic. Now, to my own mind at least, I feel certain there is some guiding force to things. I feel my heart open and it is being communicated with. It feels like plugging into a current and being part of The Flow. As long as I follow my (God-given?) conscience, walk in light and love and act in accordance with what I know to be right or wrong, I feel protected and on the right path for me.

I find some solace in all spiritual beliefs and holy texts, from any culture, because it is a beautiful thing to see humans strive to understand what is beyond their senses and peek at The Divine. It is immaterial to me to worry about which is right or wrong. It only causes problems for peace and understanding. We are all just trying to understand.
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Old 02-23-2018, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Deep Dirty South
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But the point remains the same - whoever the gods of Gobleki Tepe were, they are long forgotten.
GoCardinals, I am not trying to pick on you, honest! I respect your beliefs. But I would argue that all gods evolve from earlier god-beliefs, sometimes borrowed or adapted from other cultures. The Israelites certainly took from some of the beliefs of, for example, the Egyptians and Mesopotamians (two cultures with whom they had significant history.)

And as has been pointed out, Yahweh himself grew from earlier, other sources, and evolved from being a son of El in early Israelite polytheism to THE One God when it is clear he began life as just another war god...a patron deity of some sects of ancient Hebrews. The later accretion of monotheistic elements to his story likely was imported from Zoroastrianism.

Where humankind's thirst to comprehend Ultimate Reality began is lost to time...who first thought of gods? Perhaps it goes back to the aliens who visited the Sumerians?
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Old 02-23-2018, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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This may have been brought up in a subsequent post, but Hinduism is not technically polytheistic. More accurately it is hentotheistic--there is One Supreme Godhead or ultimate reality of which all their other gods are a reflection.

The representation of various gods as demi-animals or fantastic creatures isn't meant to represent what any of them look like but developed as a means to focus prayer and such.

Similarly, Hinduism teaches that just as each individual drop of water from an ocean contains the qualities of the entire ocean, so each individual person is a microcosm of the cosmos entire.

Also, many scholars consider Hinduism to be the oldest religion still practiced today.

This is not intended to be an argument for or against this or that religion or deitie(s) but rather an illustration of how all religions contain some Truth and Beauty and worthwhile philosophy.

It's useless to argue that Yahweh or Odin or Zeus or Vishnu or some pantheon of gods is "real" or "The One True" anything, as they are all, ultimately, humanized reflections of some much greater, overarching reality of which we "know" very little, at least while we are trapped in this temporary, very limited three-dimensional existence.

I spent 47 years as an agnostic. Now, to my own mind at least, I feel certain there is some guiding force to things. I feel my heart open and it is being communicated with. It feels like plugging into a current and being part of The Flow. As long as I follow my (God-given?) conscience, walk in light and love and act in accordance with what I know to be right or wrong, I feel protected and on the right path for me.

I find some solace in all spiritual beliefs and holy texts, from any culture, because it is a beautiful thing to see humans strive to understand what is beyond their senses and peek at The Divine. It is immaterial to me to worry about which is right or wrong. It only causes problems for peace and understanding. We are all just trying to understand.
Thank you for your post. I particularly enjoyed your comments about Hinduism.
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Old 02-25-2018, 12:27 AM
 
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This may have been brought up in a subsequent post, but Hinduism is not technically polytheistic. More accurately it is hentotheistic--there is One Supreme Godhead or ultimate reality of which all their other gods are a reflection.

The representation of various gods as demi-animals or fantastic creatures isn't meant to represent what any of them look like but developed as a means to focus prayer and such.

Similarly, Hinduism teaches that just as each individual drop of water from an ocean contains the qualities of the entire ocean, so each individual person is a microcosm of the cosmos entire.

Also, many scholars consider Hinduism to be the oldest religion still practiced today.

This is not intended to be an argument for or against this or that religion or deitie(s) but rather an illustration of how all religions contain some Truth and Beauty and worthwhile philosophy.

It's useless to argue that Yahweh or Odin or Zeus or Vishnu or some pantheon of gods is "real" or "The One True" anything, as they are all, ultimately, humanized reflections of some much greater, overarching reality of which we "know" very little, at least while we are trapped in this temporary, very limited three-dimensional existence.

I spent 47 years as an agnostic. Now, to my own mind at least, I feel certain there is some guiding force to things. I feel my heart open and it is being communicated with. It feels like plugging into a current and being part of The Flow. As long as I follow my (God-given?) conscience, walk in light and love and act in accordance with what I know to be right or wrong, I feel protected and on the right path for me.

I find some solace in all spiritual beliefs and holy texts, from any culture, because it is a beautiful thing to see humans strive to understand what is beyond their senses and peek at The Divine. It is immaterial to me to worry about which is right or wrong. It only causes problems for peace and understanding. We are all just trying to understand.
You look like a person who knows about the underlying message of all religions - submission and love - which have been historically manipulated for own agendas.
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Old 02-25-2018, 06:34 AM
 
Location: Rutherfordton,NC
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The Sumerians have the oldest known written language.


Sumerian language, language isolate and the oldest written language in existence. First attested about 3100 bc in southern Mesopotamia, it flourished during the 3rd millennium bc.

Sumerian language | Britannica.com
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A quick look on google gives Hinduism as the oldest known religion.


Either way they are Pagan Gods and they are much older then the Christian God is.
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