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Old 01-30-2018, 01:37 PM
 
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I have been attending a lovely, Spirit-led AG church now for nearly four years. I have been running their sound for a good part of that time, but lately I feel that the volume level has gotten out of hand.

They recently installed a digital audio console that is largely set and forget, but even when I was running the sound the levels they demanded from me, lately, bordered on the painful to listen to.

This is unfortunate because my wife and I both go there, and feel that we are growing in God together. The Pastor, in his mid-sixties, is very down to Earth and isn't afraid to preach the good and bad in the Bible, so that we have a good grasp of God's word.


I have even considered going back to the 'pipe organ' Lutheran I grew up in(I'm not really a fan of rock n roll worship song), but everyone I've talked to says it isn't a good idea for spouses to attend separate churches, even Christian ones.
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Old 01-30-2018, 01:41 PM
 
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What is worship music? Is that what they call that horrible religious faux rock music crap? I would trade a lifetime in hell for one weekend of listening to that stuff. It is so bad it is like self parody. Like when Pat Boone did covers of rock songs.
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Old 01-30-2018, 01:47 PM
 
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What is worship music? Is that what they call that horrible religious faux rock music crap? I would trade a lifetime in hell for one weekend of listening to that stuff. It is so bad it is like self parody. Like when Pat Boone did covers of rock songs.
Different things to different people. Hymns sung to organ also constitutes worship music, just a lot gentler on the old tympanums.
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Old 01-30-2018, 03:22 PM
 
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More importantly, what do I do to bring sane volume back to the worship portion of Sunday service?
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Old 01-30-2018, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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I have been attending a lovely, Spirit-led AG church now for nearly four years. I have been running their sound for a good part of that time, but lately I feel that the volume level has gotten out of hand.

They recently installed a digital audio console that is largely set and forget, but even when I was running the sound the levels they demanded from me, lately, bordered on the painful to listen to.

This is unfortunate because my wife and I both go there, and feel that we are growing in God together. The Pastor, in his mid-sixties, is very down to Earth and isn't afraid to preach the good and bad in the Bible, so that we have a good grasp of God's word.


I have even considered going back to the 'pipe organ' Lutheran I grew up in(I'm not really a fan of rock n roll worship song), but everyone I've talked to says it isn't a good idea for spouses to attend separate churches, even Christian ones.
The hearing impaired? I play my music too loud also.
Bring earplugs next time, and let them ask you why? WHAT?
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Old 01-30-2018, 04:43 PM
 
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More importantly, what do I do to bring sane volume back to the worship portion of Sunday service?
You can advocate for it, and your influence is probably a little more than most individual members. But unless there are a lot of people who feel similarly, I doubt it's going to happen. You might request a survey go out to the members; they might be surprised how many people share your views.

If you have empirical evidence about the decibel levels beyond which it could be physically harmful and/or psychologically stressful, and you've already passed those levels, that would be powerful.

In an AOG church, the worship experience is immersive by design. Part of that is a high volume level, particularly for the younger people. You're going to get a LOT of pushback I'll wager.

By the way, I used to be quite into pipe organs and ironically a lot of non-organ people complain that they are "too loud". Another significant minority complained that they are "scary" as all they know of pipe organs apparently is horror movies, Phantom of the Opera, Toccata and Fugue in D Minor played at Halloween, etc. So while I'm with you on a preference for pipe organ over praise anthems, it's not like there aren't opponents of that, too. In fact, as a former accompanist in churches I can tell you that there is no such thing as a style of music that no one vehemently dislikes.
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Old 01-30-2018, 04:53 PM
 
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What is worship music? Is that what they call that horrible religious faux rock music crap? I would trade a lifetime in hell for one weekend of listening to that stuff. It is so bad it is like self parody. Like when Pat Boone did covers of rock songs.

Heh. You should see the 'Christian video games' that came out over the years. Especially the ones that were trying to be a first person shooter like "Doom"
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Old 01-30-2018, 05:05 PM
 
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Old 01-30-2018, 05:15 PM
 
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You can advocate for it, and your influence is probably a little more than most individual members. But unless there are a lot of people who feel similarly, I doubt it's going to happen. You might request a survey go out to the members; they might be surprised how many people share your views.

If you have empirical evidence about the decibel levels beyond which it could be physically harmful and/or psychologically stressful, and you've already passed those levels, that would be powerful.

In an AOG church, the worship experience is immersive by design. Part of that is a high volume level, particularly for the younger people. You're going to get a LOT of pushback I'll wager.

By the way, I used to be quite into pipe organs and ironically a lot of non-organ people complain that they are "too loud". Another significant minority complained that they are "scary" as all they know of pipe organs apparently is horror movies, Phantom of the Opera, Toccata and Fugue in D Minor played at Halloween, etc. So while I'm with you on a preference for pipe organ over praise anthems, it's not like there aren't opponents of that, too. In fact, as a former accompanist in churches I can tell you that there is no such thing as a style of music that no one vehemently dislikes.

"In an AOG church, the worship
experience is immersive by design.
Part of that is a high volume level,
particularly for the younger people.
You're going to get a LOT of pushback
I'll wager.
"


In our AoG, the congregation range from 3 to 83, and the push-back I did get was from members of the worship team, all younger than me.

Remember, this push for louder worship sound volume started about 7 months ago, and I have been going to this church for nearly 4 years, the latter three as a member. So it was not this loud when I first started attending. And you know what? On Sundays when my wife and I were away, some congregants said the band volume was out of control! I wasn't at the soundboard running the sound those days.
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Old 01-30-2018, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Land of the Tonkawa and Kiowa
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That's a hard call. Seems reasonable - and sane - to try to bring down the volume. Maybe you can get them to explain the benefit to high volume. Listen to their answers, and see if they make any sense. All I can imagine is that they'll say that it's necessary to bring in people, or keep them, but that's sort of a crock. There's nothing biblical about that. It'd just be worldly or churchy/religious, not anything spiritually or biblically based.

You could bring up things like safety levels, that it's harder to hear God's "still small voice" if all we want is volume, that worship in Jesus' time never needed electrical reinforcement, etc. You might find a good video somewhere (YouTube?) where someone's maybe discussed all of this, so it would be a neutral person explaining it.

Try these things, but look for the hearts and minds of the response. See if they're too caught up with this trend to wake up. This may be out of control and unresolvable. It's maybe come to that point. Maybe another church will be better for you and for God.
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