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Old 02-05-2018, 07:53 AM
 
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ter/306234002/

Why does ANYONE still think the pope (I refuse to capitalize that word) is so holy and worthy of reverence?

From the article [my italics], QUOTE:


"'Cardinal O'Malley called me after the pope's visit here in Philadelphia and he told me, among other things, that he had given the letter to the pope — in his hands,' [Cruz, the alleged abuse victim] said in an interview at his home Sunday. Neither the Vatican nor O'Malley responded to multiple requests for comment."

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"One could argue that Francis didn’t pay attention to Cruz’s letter, since he receives thousands of letters every day from faithful around the world. He can’t possibly read them all, much less remember the contents years later. He might have been tired and confused after a weeklong trip to South America when he told an airborne press conference that victims never came forward to accuse Barros of cover-up.

"But this was not an ordinary letter, nor were the circumstances under which it arrived in the Vatican.

"Francis had named O’Malley, the archbishop of Boston, to head his Commission for the Protection of Minors based on his credibility in having helped clean up the mess in Boston after the U.S. sex abuse scandal exploded there in 2002. The commission gathered outside experts to advise the church on protecting children from pedophiles and educating church personnel about preventing abuse and cover-ups.

"The four commission members who were on a special subcommittee dedicated to survivors had flown to Rome at their own expense specifically to speak with O’Malley about the Barros appointment and to deliver Cruz’s letter..”


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Old 02-05-2018, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Land of the Tonkawa and Kiowa
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He's just a man, as flawed as the rest of us. But in a position of high responsibility and authority, he will be judged much more strongly when he stumbles.
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Old 02-08-2018, 05:20 AM
 
Location: Northeastern US
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It's just the same old story, chapter 227. Catholic church covers up another sex scandal at the highest levels. *yawn*
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Old 02-08-2018, 06:18 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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This <bleep> would rather go to prison than report child abuse!

https://www.theguardian.com/australi...-in-confession

Last edited by mensaguy; 02-08-2018 at 07:43 AM.. Reason: Please don't make me bleep things out.
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Old 02-08-2018, 06:19 AM
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Location: Georgia
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Everything is relative. I bet this pope now regrets his error in this case. I bet at least one if not more of the most recent previous popes would not be contrite about such an error. Legacy Christian institutions are overwhelmingly corrupt at their core, as indicated by the post right above this one, so glimmers of "less corrupt" are shining beacons of hope by comparison.
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Old 02-08-2018, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Northeastern US
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Everything is relative. I bet this pope now regrets his error in this case. I bet at least one if not more of the most recent previous popes would not be contrite about such an error. Legacy Christian institutions are overwhelmingly corrupt at their core, as indicated by the post right above this one, so glimmers of "less corrupt" are shining beacons of hope by comparison.
"We takes hope where we can finds it."

This is relatively hopeful in the same way that the fact I woke up this morning to not see millions dying (yet) in a war on the Korean peninsula is hopeful. Our standards have gotten so low, we have to take off our socks to see.
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Old 02-09-2018, 05:29 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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More shame!

Forgiven By Church: Pedophile Priest With HIV Who Raped 30 Children
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Old 02-09-2018, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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It is the church's job to forgive any sin for which any person truly repents, regardless of how disgusting the sins are.
It is the government's job to prosecute and hand out punishments for crimes.

The two entities should not be working together.
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Old 02-09-2018, 10:58 AM
bUU
 
Location: Georgia
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The two entities should not be working together.
Every entity and citizen should provide authorities with any and all information about crimes for which relevant information comes into their possession.
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Old 02-09-2018, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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Every entity and citizen should provide authorities with any and all information about crimes for which relevant information comes into their possession.
I understand that point of view.
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