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Can't quote a quote but from this last post of yours you included this...
"...when humans are the reason this earth is suffering and humanity is suffering as well other animal species suffering due to human activity..."
Are you really going to try to have us believe your all loving god allows other animals to suffer due to human actions?
Can't quote a quote but from this last post of yours you included this...
"...when humans are the reason this earth is suffering and humanity is suffering as well other animal species suffering due to human activity..."
Are you really going to try to have us believe your all loving god allows other animals to suffer due to human actions?
Sorry for the confusion, old_cold. That was a quote from Matadora, not me. I am not an Omni believer so I don't expect anything from God other than for God to exist because I met Him. I am sure the cells and biota that comprise my body would not expect anything from me other than to exist if they were sentient. I expect no more from our God that we are merely a part of.
Sorry for the confusion, old_cold. That was a quote from Matadora, not me. I am not an Omni believer so I don't expect anything from God other than for God to exist because I met Him. I am sure the cells and biota that comprise my body would not expect anything from me other than to exist if they were sentient. I expect no more from our God that we are merely a part of.
what is an "Omni believer" what does that mean to you?
Sorry for the confusion, old_cold. That was a quote from Matadora, not me. I am not an Omni believer so I don't expect anything from God other than for God to exist because I met Him. I am sure the cells and biota that comprise my body would not expect anything from me other than to exist if they were sentient. I expect no more from our God that we are merely a part of.
its really that simple.
yet the fundy-tink type atheists deny such simple notions. They add in all sorts of emotion that really cloud the issue of what reality is.
what is an "Omni believer" what does that mean to you?
It means I reject the requirement that God MUST be Omnipotent or Omni-anything-else. I accept that God exists because I met Him but we have no business pretending we know what God MUST be or do.
what is an "Omni believer" what does that mean to you?
omni-type ... omni present, that trait is probably true. omni-knowing? that trait is open to debate, with the universe quantum computing right now, It knows a lot more than we do. at least in the "now". The past would have to be discussed, but going from not knowing to knowing is reasonable.
Omni-powerful, that's a "only can do what the universe rules allow." is the most reasonable guess.
It means I reject the requirement that God MUST be Omnipotent or Omni-anything-else. I accept that God exists because I met Him but we have no business pretending we know what God MUST be or do.
nor can anyone pretend to know what God CAN'T do.
what do you mean you "reject that God must be Omnipotent or Omni anything else" ?
aren't you the one saying that God is everything? That is an Omni.
and since you say that God is everything, then that means God is everywhere. That is another Omni.
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what do you mean you "reject that God must be Omnipotent or Omni anything else" ?
aren't you the one saying that God is everything? That is an Omni.
and since you say that God is everything, then that means God is everywhere. That is another Omni.
I only said that God does not have to BE ANY Omni, not that God could not be any.
I only said that God does not have to BE ANY Omni, not that God could not be any.
So you yourself ARE an Omni believer.
"everything" and "everywhere" are both Omni
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Originally Posted by MysticPhD
.. I am not an Omni believer so I don't expect anything from God other than for God to exist because I met Him. I am sure the cells and biota that comprise my body would not expect anything from me other than to exist if they were sentient. I expect no more from our God that we are merely a part of.
So you yourself ARE an Omni believer.
"everything" and "everywhere" are both Omni
tzah, admitting to one component doesn't make it an all or nothing proposition.
I believe that the universe is omnipresent. That doesn't mean I believe in Omni powerful. Yes, the universe is more powerful than me. I do not see, nor do I think, that the universe can make pink elephants out of stars. errr ... wait a min ...
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