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Old 05-15-2018, 10:52 AM
 
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There you go again.

Doing good works and avoiding bad works does not depend on there being a god.
It sort of does. Otherwise, you get into a gray area as to who decides what's good and what's bad?
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Old 05-15-2018, 10:55 AM
 
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Almost every time you post I think back to the film "Inherit The Wind" (which seems appropriate), and the scene where Matthew Harrison Brady says, "I do not think about things I do not think about".
Is it a good thing or a bad thing?
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Old 05-15-2018, 11:10 AM
 
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Or a cow is a God or rat is God or a half-man half-elephant is God, or a stone statue that cannot remove a fly from it's nose is a God, etc - All these entities are God to their followers, and I don't have an issue with that - I don't accept them as MY God.
I will start praying to the Hispanic pest control guy from now on. He does what God cannot do.
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Old 05-15-2018, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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It sort of does. Otherwise, you get into a gray area as to who decides what's good and what's bad?
No it doesn't. There are plenty of wonderful people all over the world, including in countries that have virtually no Christian presence. And if you don't understand that, then you're downright ignorant about other cultures.

And even within Christianity there is no agreement as to what is good or bad. If there was such agreement, there would be churches of about twenty different denominations within 5 miles of my house. You guys don't agree on much of any substance or you wouldn't divide yourselves up in little club houses with different rules.
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Old 05-15-2018, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Is it a good thing or a bad thing?
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Old 05-15-2018, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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Ya gotta know what it is all about.
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Old 05-15-2018, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Divided Tribes of America
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It would be pretty impressive to see a god move a mountain in real time.

Then again, I would be inclined to think, “maybe it was Aliens.”
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Old 05-15-2018, 01:35 PM
 
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It sort of does. Otherwise, you get into a gray area as to who decides what's good and what's bad?
Well, We do, obviously, and that includes the Believers, otherwise who decided what God hath commanded is good and deserves praise and which is bad and had to be blamed on someone else?

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Is it a good thing or a bad thing?
Depends whom you ask. The atheist view is that everything is open to question. The theist view is that some areas are off -limits to doubt and question. In my view, that's a bad thing.
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Old 05-15-2018, 01:39 PM
 
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It would be pretty impressive to see a god move a mountain in real time.

Then again, I would be inclined to think, “maybe it was Aliens.”
Don't tell the Theists but, If we found God's signature in a glacier, Slartibarftfast style, I'd want to know when it was faked.
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Old 05-15-2018, 03:23 PM
 
Location: From the Middle East of the USA
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God believed he was God so that meant he could do miracles?
I don't know what you believe. But I believe that God can do miracles. I believe when Jesus was on earth with his disciples, they were pessimistic at who He was and the claims that he made. He had to convince them that he was real and not a phony. Once he got the belief where it needed to be, He could move on to other things with them.
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