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Old 05-19-2019, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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That is pretty bleak...we just live 70-80 yrs (give or take), and then just Not exist anymore, in ANY capacity!!


Whats the point of all this then? Why bother caring about how we live our lives or the things we do?
Have you actually read the thread. There have been a number of answers to that question posted numerous times.
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Old 05-19-2019, 12:42 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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That is pretty bleak...we just live 70-80 yrs (give or take), and then just Not exist anymore, in ANY capacity!!


Whats the point of all this then? Why bother caring about how we live our lives or the things we do?
Because you only have one life - this one. Why waste it? If anything, itís more reason to care how you choose to whittle this one away.
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Old 05-19-2019, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Because you only have one life - this one. Why waste it? If anything, itís more reason to care how you choose to whittle this one away.
I agree but remember, you're also addressing those that believe in a better everlasting life like, I assume from the question, rstevens62
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Old 05-19-2019, 12:58 PM
 
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That is pretty bleak...we just live 70-80 yrs (give or take), and then just Not exist anymore, in ANY capacity!!


Whats the point of all this then? Why bother caring about how we live our lives or the things we do?
"bleak" is an emotional term. And we need to work that out in our own way.

The universe works they way the universe works. How I feel about it is not requirement.

I am atheist so i feel we only have each other. Its our duty to help. Life is a privilege, not a birth right.
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Old 05-19-2019, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Divided Tribes of America
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Energy has to be transformed in some way. We know of nothing that can transform the energy that comprises our consciousness other than our brain. Once production ceases there is nothing to transform what has been produced into anything else.
Energy =/= consciousness
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Old 05-19-2019, 05:06 PM
 
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Energy =/= consciousness
Everything that manifests is some form of energy/mass/momentum, so what IS consciousness?
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Old 05-19-2019, 05:11 PM
 
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Everything that manifests is some form of energy/mass/momentum, so what IS consciousness?
a complex set of interactions that exhibit patterns in a given volume. as the number and types of interactions increase in a given volume the more it looks alive and aware.

its a complexity vs volume ratio thing.
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Old 05-19-2019, 05:16 PM
 
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a complex set of interactions that exhibit patterns in a given volume. as the number and types of interactions increase in a given volume the more it looks alive and aware.
its a complexity vs volume ratio thing.
Do you really believe YOU are a mere complex volume of interactions? Do you truly believe that the intelligent rational being I am conversing with does not really exist as a composite Being comprised of some form of energy?
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Old 05-19-2019, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Divided Tribes of America
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Everything that manifests is some form of energy/mass/momentum, so what IS consciousness?
Good vibrations.
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Old 05-19-2019, 09:52 PM
 
Location: minnesota
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Good vibrations.
Good vibrations =/= excitations
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