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Old 05-28-2018, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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To add. It is tragic that religions have instilled a lack of urgency to respect human life. It is far too easy for leaders to send young men/women to die for unnecessary reasons, believing their rewards await after death. This is nonsensical and extremely tragic.
Wait, what? Explain.
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Old 05-28-2018, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Wait, what? Explain.
I don't doubt it.

Nothing difficult to understand about that.

Our religious organizations in the United States have often lined up in support of military action, particularly when it involved nations not made up of mostly Caucasians and/or christians.
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Old 05-28-2018, 05:34 PM
 
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Why bother with anything in this life? EVERYTHING is meaningless, right?
Isn't it?
If it just goes blank/dark/black when we die...what does anything matter?
Well, I find it matters that we are Not in burning flames of fire.
That is why, unlike false religious teachers, Jesus gives us much comfort at John 11:11-14 that the dead are sleeping.
If we want to live forever then we need a resurrection from death's deep sleep.- Psalms 115:17; 146:4.
Since we can Not resurrect oneself or another we need someone who can resurrect us. Jesus can and will - Rev. 1:18.
So, without the resurrection hope ( John 5:28-29 ) then everything IS meaningless, right !.
So, if we want to again see the ' light of day ' once we are dead we need a resurrection.
That is why Acts 24:15 uses the hopeful ' future tense' for us that there ' is going to be ' a resurrection.....
That is a reason why we are all invited to pray the invitation of Rev. 22:20 for Jesus to come !
Come and bring ' healing to Earth - Rev. 22:2 - and resurrection of dead loved ones back to see life again.
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Old 05-28-2018, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Well, I find it matters that we are Not in burning flames of fire.
That is why, unlike false religious teachers, Jesus gives us much comfort at John 11:11-14 that the dead are sleeping.
If we want to live forever then we need a resurrection from death's deep sleep.- Psalms 115:17; 146:4.
Since we can Not resurrect oneself or another we need someone who can resurrect us. Jesus can and will - Rev. 1:18.
So, without the resurrection hope ( John 5:28-29 ) then everything IS meaningless, right !.
So, if we want to again see the ' light of day ' once we are dead we need a resurrection.
That is why Acts 24:15 uses the hopeful ' future tense' for us that there ' is going to be ' a resurrection.....
That is a reason why we are all invited to pray the invitation of Rev. 22:20 for Jesus to come !
Come and bring ' healing to Earth - Rev. 22:2 - and resurrection of dead loved ones back to see life again.
If I post Buddhist scriptures, will you agree that Buddhism is the real "right" religion?
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Old 05-28-2018, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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I don't doubt it.

Nothing difficult to understand about that.

Our religious organizations in the United States have often lined up in support of military action, particularly when it involved nations not made up of mostly Caucasians and/or christians.


"justified war" theory is rarely if ever justified.
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Old 05-28-2018, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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And we are NOT talking about “meaning” IN or DURING his life.
How hard is it to understand?
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Extremely. Please explain what we are talking about because you are not making any sense to me if you are not talking about a larger philosophical "meaning," in which case the answer to the question to anyone who does not believe in a life after death is exactly what I said, "So what?"
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What you do in life matters to you and or others,,,,,,, so what?
Is that supposed to be an indication that you ARE talking about a "larger philosophical meaning?" Please refer to mu answer for those who don't believe in life after death above. Want to chase around THAT bush again?
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Old 05-28-2018, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Wait, what? Explain.
Think about it jimmiej, if this life is a drop in the bucket and Heaven is the grand prize, why treasure this existence? Christians call loving this life being "worldly". When an 18 year old dies in battle, no big deal, he goes to heaven. Yet, what evidence is there for this ridiculous claim? The fact is that 18 just lost the only existence we honestly know of. It is easy to ignore this life when you are nonsensically convinced it is just a drop in the bucket of your existence. It's that simple, yet tragic jimmiej.
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Old 05-28-2018, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Nowhere
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Think about it jimmiej, if this life is a drop in the bucket and Heaven is the grand prize, why treasure this existence? Christians call loving this life being "worldly". When an 18 year old dies in battle, no big deal, he goes to heaven. Yet, what evidence is there for this ridiculous claim? The fact is that 18 just lost the only existence we honestly know of. It is easy to ignore this life when you are nonsensically convinced it is just a drop in the bucket of your existence. It's that simple, yet tragic jimmiej.
You guys think "Christians" orchestrated all the wars America has been dumped into for the last...70 years?


It's totally different topic altogether but you guys are tragically misguided on that one.
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Old 05-28-2018, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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You guys think "Christians" orchestrated all the wars America has been dumped into for the last...70 years?


It's totally different topic altogether but you guys are tragically misguided on that one.
That would be overstating it, but we certainly didn't resist some of those wars. And, to a large extent those wars were supported by American Christians and Christian organizations.
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Old 05-28-2018, 06:51 PM
 
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You guys think "Christians" orchestrated all the wars America has been dumped into for the last...70 years?


It's totally different topic altogether but you guys are tragically misguided on that one.
Didn't you fight mostly religious countries?

Back to your topic : I wonder how would you expect to enjoy or second or third billion years in the afterlife?

Find a support group, volunteer to help others, take a trip. Just go back to living your life and enjoying it again and return to this concern when you are in a better place in your head. I'm serious, work on getting your head into a better place right now.

When my father was told that he was dying and he could no longer drive his car, it was not the dying but not being able to drive again that really bothered him. He refused to go to the hospital to stay but was lucky that home care was available to him and he died in peace in his own bed and never once mentioned an afterlife or anything like that. I don't think he believed in a God but thought of himself as Jewish so I don't think we get an afterlife.

If there is a God and an afterlife I am sure he would want you to get yourself together before he meets you and if there isn't then getting yourself together will help you during this life. Either way, the best of luck and I hope you can recovery fully from this state.
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