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Old 03-13-2019, 06:57 AM
 
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Which parts of the NT are to be taken literally and which are not -and more importantly - what method do you use to decide?
Let's open a book on the answer, hey?

10 -1 against "God will inspire the faithful with the truth"
5 -1 On - "It's common sense"
2-1 On "Just have Faith".
5 -1 against "Just read it with an open mind".
10,000 - 1 against "it's cherry -picking the Bible, using human morals."
50 - 1 On - "there's no point in talking to the closed minded...Bye bye...I win....."
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Old 03-13-2019, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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Spot on old prune!

I'll certainly have a tenner on.. "there's no point in talking to the closed minded...Bye bye...I win...."
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Old 03-13-2019, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Which parts of the NT are to be taken literally and which are not -and more importantly - what method do you use to decide?
If you like it and agree with it, take it literally.
If it doesn't sit well with you, don't.
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Old 03-13-2019, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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If you like it and agree with it, take it literally.
If it doesn't sit well with you, don't.
Yes. That seems about right.

Go out and preach to the nations = literal.
If someone steals your things don't attempt to get them back = metaphor.
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Old 03-13-2019, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Thrill, who are you trying to convince with all these threads? Me or you?
Anyone willing to listen to rational evidence. Sorry Jimmie, you choose not to.
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Old 03-13-2019, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Booth Texas
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If you like it and agree with it, take it literally.
If it doesn't sit well with you, don't.
Lol, that is exactly what Christians do, and it is exactly why other people can't take them seriously, Christians invent their own Christianity that doesn't look anything like the first Christianity because they don't like what Jesus says, and if they can reject what Jesus says to then act like it doesn't matter, they can just do anything at all, believe or disbelieve anything.

Jesus says to sell all you own and give to the poor, he says that you can't refuse people when they ask things of you, if a thief steals your wallet, you let him keep the cash and then throw another tenner in there and bless him, don't matter if you can't pay your bills.

I would tell people the same thing, sell all you own and give the money to the poor widows and needy of Israel, and that doesn't seem rational does it?

Christians take the bible and start explaining how God wants them to be so wealthy as to have the best jets, the best cars and tne best homes because that is what they see, and so they rationalize anything they want.
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Old 03-13-2019, 01:07 PM
 
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If you like it and agree with it, take it literally.
If it doesn't sit well with you, don't.
Cherry -picking the Bible has its' points, certainly.

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Lol, that is exactly what Christians do, and it is exactly why other people can't take them seriously, Christians invent their own Christianity that doesn't look anything like the first Christianity because they don't like what Jesus says, and if they can reject what Jesus says to then act like it doesn't matter, they can just do anything at all, believe or disbelieve anything.

Jesus says to sell all you own and give to the poor, he says that you can't refuse people when they ask things of you, if a thief steals your wallet, you let him keep the cash and then throw another tenner in there and bless him, don't matter if you can't pay your bills.

I would tell people the same thing, sell all you own and give the money to the poor widows and needy of Israel, and that doesn't seem rational does it?

Christians take the bible and start explaining how God wants them to be so wealthy as to have the best jets, the best cars and tne best homes because that is what they see, and so they rationalize anything they want.
You nailed it. It is why cafeteria Christianity is easier for an old atheist to co -exist with, but it is not believing the Bible while pretending that one does.
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Old 03-18-2019, 08:16 AM
 
Location: knoxville, Tn.
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If you like it and agree with it, take it literally.
If it doesn't sit well with you, don't.

Sometimes its both. There are many allegories in the Bible and allegories are always built on a literal event.
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Old 03-18-2019, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Germany
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Sometimes its both. There are many allegories in the Bible and allegories are always built on a literal event.
Except the very many that are not. Which is why they are allegories.
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Old 03-18-2019, 08:19 AM
 
Location: knoxville, Tn.
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Cherry -picking the Bible has its' points, certainly.



You nailed it. It is why cafeteria Christianity is easier for an old atheist to co -exist with, but it is not believing the Bible while pretending that one does.

Posting verses that address and explain the subject being discussed is not cherry picking. Non-believers like to call it that when the verse refutes what they say and they have nothing to refute the verse.
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