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Old 07-28-2018, 05:08 AM
 
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The limitation of science seems to have eluded you. The belief that only science can provide the answers is not science, that belief is called scientism. Many fall into the scientism trap. Its tempting to those who are seeking certainty.

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you need to be careful here jon. arguing for human's being in a larger more complex system that may be "something" and fundamentally integrated into it is different than just labeling something, that is very limiting, then prove that wrong or short sighted.

Any one can be doing science that is collecting data, drawing conclusions, then testing to see if that conclusion is valid. we do it all the time. Like many people do accounting. only the ones doing it for a living or a hobby do we tag as 'scienceing".

"science-ism" is a weird term. does it mean people that think what the universe is doing will reveal how the universe works?
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Old 07-28-2018, 07:34 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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No one is claiming only science can provide answers. Especially Mystic. Scientism is a word now only used by people who want to imply an inferiority in the thinking of their opponent.

And it's used exclusively by religionists.
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Old 07-28-2018, 07:39 AM
 
Location: southern california
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Anybody that has experienced a surge of inspiration to go in a direction not before
Whether it is social unity, science, music, math, art —-
Knows this spiritual awakening
It is beyond and above our sense of self
We are in sore need of this experience and the people that have it
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Old 07-28-2018, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Northern Maine
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No one is claiming only science can provide answers. Especially Mystic. Scientism is a word now only used by people who want to imply an inferiority in the thinking of their opponent.
Scientism is what posters do here when they demand scientific PROOF for spirituality. They believe the only source of truth is science.
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Old 07-28-2018, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Northern Maine
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you need to be careful here jon. arguing for human's being in a larger more complex system that may be "something" and fundamentally integrated into it is different than just labeling something, that is very limiting, then prove that wrong or short sighted.

Any one can be doing science that is collecting data, drawing conclusions, then testing to see if that conclusion is valid. we do it all the time. Like many people do accounting. only the ones doing it for a living or a hobby do we tag as 'scienceing".

"science-ism" is a weird term. does it mean people that think what the universe is doing will reveal how the universe works?
No it means only that which is revealed by science is true.
That in itself is an unscientific claim.
They like to use political power to impose their belief. See Al Gore.
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Old 07-28-2018, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Northern Maine
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Anybody that has experienced a surge of inspiration to go in a direction not before
Whether it is social unity, science, music, math, art —-
Knows this spiritual awakening
It is beyond and above our sense of self
We are in sore need of this experience and the people that have it
They are everywhere because its a phenomenon common to all spiritual beings.
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