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As I said to the other person...I am not God. God is patient and merciful. As the creator of life, only He knows the timeline and why some appear to have more time than others. Nobody (that I know) has come back to life to say what it's like. You are assuming that earth is the be all, end all. We are in the end times. How do we know those children were not raised up to prepare for that and will be sent back? Do we know that one of their parents didn't at some point harm a child (emotional, for example), and so their child was taken? The Quran talks about "exceeding the limits," which I interpret as disobedience that goes beyond the forgivable. We don't know if the parent exceeded the limits and was punished for it. We don't even know if the child exceeded the limits and was punished. You are assuming that all children are innocent. And maybe it wasn't a punishment at all. Maybe they were always only supposed to live until age 6, 7, or 8. Everything has its allotted time. What looks "unfair" to you can be perfectly ordained by God. The point is...your understanding is limited. You do not have all the information. Only God does.
Too many die painful deaths with sometimes years of suffering to say god is merciful.
You're right...non one has come back to say what it's like...yet you all swallow the kool-aid.
Did not god create the humans that made that child to suffer?
Your understanding is just as limited, and therefore no more reliable, than ours.
So if God wanted these kids killed in Grade one isn't it unfair to punish the shooter? I mean you should praise him and all the other mass shooters if they are fulfilling God's plan
Yes--we die because of the sin of Adam and Eve. As a general sense, we inherit a sin nature from them.
But no--those kids did not die because their parents sinned.
SO...yes--in a certain sense, we do suffer because of one particular sin -- Adam and Eve's sin. But no--we do not have to constantly be worrying that if we sin we will condemn our kids to be shot at school.
You can't even prove there was an Adam and Eve. And yet you're basing all of life's great decisions on them. Preposterous.
There is a difference between posting what the God has said and what we think God says with no support whatsoever. I post what he has said, you tend to do the latter.
No, you post what some writer(s) of fiction say he said.
badlander, this is not going to be a productive conversation, because we believe differently. You are looking at this from a purely factual stance; I am not. The fact is, the physical body will perish. The method is sometimes cruel and beyond our understanding, but the end result is the same.
I just don't understand how you can place fault or guilt upon a victim or their family. Doesn't your belief discard the concept of free will? Can nothing happen unless your God let's it?
Did or did not YOUR GOD order that children and babies should be hacked to death with the edge of swords, as written in Numbers 31:15-18, Joshua 6:20-21, Joshua 11:19-20, Ezekiel 9:4-7, Samuel 1 15:2-3 ?
He'll just come up with an excuse. They always do.
It's sort of like putting a "spin" on reality to make it sound good and right. But we all know what "spin" is...it's dishonesty.
He'll just come up with an excuse. They always do.
It's sort of like putting a "spin" on reality to make it sound good and right. But we all know what "spin" is...it's dishonesty.
I'm betting he will simply refuse to answer. The Bible clearly states that God ordered children and babies to be killed with swords by the Israelite soldiers. So BF is faced either with declaring that the Bible contains "false news" (anything that conservatives prefer not to believe), or to simply ignore anything that they prefer not to believe when presented with it.
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