Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Religion and Spirituality
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 07-31-2018, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Germany
16,774 posts, read 4,979,959 times
Reputation: 2113

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by omega2xx View Post
It is amazing how the secular fundies in this forum like to make stupid remarks they can't support. You don't even have the contest right.
Says the person taking the NT out of context.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 07-31-2018, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Germany
16,774 posts, read 4,979,959 times
Reputation: 2113
Quote:
Originally Posted by omega2xx View Post
No. Allegories are based on literal events. That is what makes them an allegory. instead of a parable, metaphor or some other type of figurative language.
An allegory is a synonym for a parable, metaphor or some other type of figurative language, so there is no 'instead of'.

Your invented definition is not in the dictionary.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-31-2018, 04:18 PM
 
18,250 posts, read 16,917,013 times
Reputation: 7553
Quote:
Originally Posted by BaptistFundie View Post
Again......why should we care? Why do YOU care? You have demonstrated repeatedly that your view of Jesus and the Bible has nothing to do with context or historical accuracy.


What do you mean by historical accuracy? There are no historical records that provide evidence for any of the bible's claims. In fact, much of the information contained in the bible is false or conflicts with other proven and documented facts.

If you don't have the vested interests of a believer, it is fairly obvious that the bible Jesus is an amalgam of other mythic figures like Dionysus, Osiris, etc and is not meant to be taken literally as an actual living person.
Pot calling the kettle black again-stuff. Omega demonstrates consistency he hasn't the vaguest clue about historical accuracy and worse couldn't care less about it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-31-2018, 04:46 PM
 
Location: knoxville, Tn.
4,765 posts, read 1,995,136 times
Reputation: 181
Quote:
Originally Posted by nateswift View Post
The idea that it was talking about Jesus going INTO Heaven and judging the people on earth, and making it depend on a point of view different from the writer OR his audience.

Acts 1:11 clearly says Jesus was taken UP INTO HEAVEN. I did not mention Jesus judging those on earth and neither does the passage. It is only your opinion that what I said is a different view from the writer or His audience. You are entitled to your opinion, but opinions are of no real value.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-31-2018, 04:50 PM
 
Location: knoxville, Tn.
4,765 posts, read 1,995,136 times
Reputation: 181
Quote:
Originally Posted by TroutDude View Post
Hehe. You said "bible" and "historical accuracy" in the same sentence. Heheh.

Why don't you show were the Bible is historically inaccurate? You will have to do much better than show some liberal eating pop corn. That is what you usually do, when you have no answer. That is such a brilliant, convincing response.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-31-2018, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
31,373 posts, read 20,181,167 times
Reputation: 14070
Quote:
Originally Posted by omega2xx View Post
Why don't you show were the Bible is historically inaccurate? You will have to do much better than show some liberal eating pop corn. That is what you usually do, when you have no answer. That is such a brilliant, convincing response.
Thanks for dropping by again this evening, Uncle omega!

(Remember children, stay in school and pay attention in class, especially Science. Nobody wants what happened to Uncle omega to happen to you.)
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-31-2018, 05:11 PM
 
Location: knoxville, Tn.
4,765 posts, read 1,995,136 times
Reputation: 181
Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry Diogenes View Post
As does Matthew. Different kingdom.



It says there will be people who were listening to Jesus would still be alive when he returns. Not goes to heaven as you pretend, but 'comes' back from heaven. Which can only be the second century AD, AT THE LATEST.

Not if you connect it to Mt 16:28. "Come" in 10:23 and "coming" in16:18 refer to the same event. It is not a reference to the second coming, when Jesus returns to earth. It is Jesus coming into His heavenly kingdom. That is what Acts 1:11 refers to, when from God's perspective, Jesus was coming to heaven, to a heavenly kingdom.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-31-2018, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
50,804 posts, read 24,310,427 times
Reputation: 32938
Quote:
Originally Posted by thrillobyte View Post
DISCLAIMER:

Let me make quite clear that anything I say about Jesus in the negative I am speaking STRICTLY of the Jesus portrayed in the New Testament. The real Jesus, if there was one and I say there's reasonable odds there was, was probably one heck of a nice guy and probably sane as any of us. But as his story was written up to 100 years after his death we cannot know a single thing about him. All the stuff he says in the gospels are words put into his mouth by crazy Greek theists filled with nonsense about all the other god-types they believed in that they were trying to instill into the Jesus legend.
I can pretty much agree with that.

Jesus Legend? Related to John Legend?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-31-2018, 05:23 PM
 
Location: knoxville, Tn.
4,765 posts, read 1,995,136 times
Reputation: 181
Quote:
Originally Posted by thrillobyte View Post
The links didn't work for you because you didn't want them to.

That is a bold face lie.





[quote]It's a horrible thing for a fundamentalist to see the truth come shining through the window and blinding them. I'll put the verse down for others to read in context and let them decide if it's about Jesus returning to heaven or returning to earth with angels in glory to judge the earth.


That is Biblical ignorance.




Quote:
[Matthew 16:27-28


The Jesus of the gospels was a loon.

That is bogotry


Quote:
What say others? Is this about Jesus ascending to heaven or returning to earth to judge people's deeds at the Last Judgment? Did it happen or did Jesus fail? If it didn't happen is Jesus a false prophet and a deluded fool with visions of grandeur?

Since there is no mention of judgment in those passages, that is more ignorance. The last judgment will be in heaven, not on earth. More ignorance.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-31-2018, 05:24 PM
 
Location: knoxville, Tn.
4,765 posts, read 1,995,136 times
Reputation: 181
Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry Diogenes View Post
Says the person taking the NT out of context.

Your OPINION is not evidence.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Religion and Spirituality

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top