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Old 10-18-2018, 01:15 PM
 
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Always the same with you, why is it that everything you say is strictly about cursing Israel? That seems to be your entire religion, you go about cursing Israel as if this somehow validates you whenit doesn't.

Twist it however you like---I state FACT of history---undeniable Facts.
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Old 10-18-2018, 01:16 PM
 
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That's exactly right, no matter the subject, he will find a way to curse Israel because that is the foundation of what he believes. Even if every Jew died tomorrow, it still wouldn't make him Israel.

I wouldn't stand where Israel stands-Matthew 23:37-39
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Old 10-18-2018, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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KJ, you don't have any facts, you have scriptures you pick and choose where you don't understand the meaning, and your idea and translations contradict everything in the bible, and no matter that your belief contradicts all the promises of God and all of the prophets along with the definition of who Israel is, you still quote the same scripture over and over where your entire belief is founded on God cursing his own people, and if. this were true, it would contradict every single promise made by God, and God would be a liar. All you have is your replacement mentality where in the beginning, Gentiled joined Jews, they didn't replace Jews, and it will never be the plan for God's people to join the ways of the Gentiles to become one with Gentiles.

The plan has always been for Gentiles to join Israel, not the other way around.

The prophets tell us and show us who Israel is by their beliefs and their actions and they all love the laws and ways of God.

The Jews have been the only people in the last 2000 years who have been continuously persecuted for keeping the religion of Messiah, and for 2000 years it has been the Christians who continuously persecute the only people who keep the religion of Messiah, and for 2000 years Gentiled have been claiming to be the persecuted of God when they were always the ones who persecute...

You can make up a fairy tale history but reality is reality.
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Old 10-19-2018, 12:05 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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Twist it however you like---I state FACT of history---undeniable Facts.
You appear not to understand what a 'fact' is.
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Old 10-19-2018, 12:47 AM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Exactly.


If satan/ demons had truly rebelled against God and heaven, God would have turned them to dust right there on the spot, and they would not exist anymore.
Especially considering what God is going to do to us just because we don't believe in him ....
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Old 10-19-2018, 02:22 AM
 
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Twist it however you like---I state FACT of history---undeniable Facts.
As a historian, I can hereby claim with authority that you don't have any facts -- and, in fact (pun intended) most of your facts are factually incorrect.

Not that that's going to matter to someone who is bound and determined to believe a religion that's been wrong countless times with embarrassing proclamations of the End Times that never occurred.
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Old 10-19-2018, 12:21 PM
 
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As a historian, I can hereby claim with authority that you don't have any facts -- and, in fact (pun intended) most of your facts are factually incorrect.

Not that that's going to matter to someone who is bound and determined to believe a religion that's been wrong countless times with embarrassing proclamations of the End Times that never occurred.
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Old 10-19-2018, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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I wouldn't stand where Israel stands-Matthew 23:37-39
You are trying to claim a covenant Messiah brings for Ephrain and Judah and only Ephraim and Judah are Israel. Anybody can look up who this new covenant is brought for because Jeremiah 31 and Ezekiel 37 clearly show the people in this New covenant, Israel.

You can't claim a new covenant if you are not Israel, it is only to Israel, and these are Jews of Judah and Gentiles who come joining Jews through a marriage to a Jew, this betrothal is in Hosea 2.
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Old 10-20-2018, 02:52 PM
 
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KJ, you don't have any facts, you have scriptures you pick and choose where you don't understand the meaning, and your idea and translations contradict everything in the bible, and no matter that your belief contradicts all the promises of God and all of the prophets along with the definition of who Israel is, you still quote the same scripture over and over where your entire belief is founded on God cursing his own people, and if. this were true, it would contradict every single promise made by God, and God would be a liar. All you have is your replacement mentality where in the beginning, Gentiled joined Jews, they didn't replace Jews, and it will never be the plan for God's people to join the ways of the Gentiles to become one with Gentiles.

The plan has always been for Gentiles to join Israel, not the other way around.

The prophets tell us and show us who Israel is by their beliefs and their actions and they all love the laws and ways of God.

The Jews have been the only people in the last 2000 years who have been continuously persecuted for keeping the religion of Messiah, and for 2000 years it has been the Christians who continuously persecute the only people who keep the religion of Messiah, and for 2000 years Gentiled have been claiming to be the persecuted of God when they were always the ones who persecute...

You can make up a fairy tale history but reality is reality.

In the OT--Israel fell over and over. They lost Gods favor each time until they repented. Many times they fell for foreign wives, Even Solomon had foreign wives(God warned Israel not to take foreign wives) and he fell to false god worship. Many kings fell. And Israel followed.( not 100% of them)
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Old 10-21-2018, 05:04 AM
 
Location: US
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In the OT--Israel fell over and over. They lost Gods favor each time until they repented. Many times they fell for foreign wives, Even Solomon had foreign wives(God warned Israel not to take foreign wives) and he fell to false god worship. Many kings fell. And Israel followed.( not 100% of them)

Melachim I - I Kings - Chapter 6

13 And I will dwell among the children of Israel, and will not forsake My people, Israel.

Either G-d lied or you have...
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