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Interesting question for all those who claim they follow the Mosaic Covenant. Did HaShem change His mind about all the other requirements of the Law that are no longer observed such as the animal sacrifices?
Interesting question for all those who claim they follow the Mosaic Covenant. Did HaShem change His mind about all the other requirements of the Law that are no longer observed such as the animal sacrifices?
The laws of animal sacrifices weren't changed. They are still in effect and are being observed. One of the laws is that we can only do sacrifices in a particular place in a particular state. Since we don't have that place or that state, we can't do the sacrifices.
The laws of animal sacrifices weren't changed. They are still in effect and are being observed. One of the laws is that we can only do sacrifices in a particular place in a particular state. Since we don't have that place or that state, we can't do the sacrifices.
That excuse won't fly. There was no such place when the requirement was given, but tell me how those requirements are being observed now.
My point is that Rabbincal Judaism is not the religion of Moses. It has evolved.
That excuse won't fly. There was no such place when the requirement was given, but tell me how those requirements are being observed now.
My point is that Rabbincal Judaism is not the religion of Moses. It has evolved.
Your response makes no sense. The text says "in the place which I will choose" contemporaneous with the lists of sacrifices. By the time of King Solomon, that place was known - Jerusalem. There were two temples. When the temples were destroyed the ability to do as commanded was removed. There were many other rules, including ones which gave both temporary allowances to use other places, and rules which gave replacement opportunities for when the place was not available. Looking at just a literal and single verse and ignoring anything else allows you to come up with an untenable claim. This does not mean that Judaism hasn't evolved, but just that it has, following rules which were established at its outset.
^Fine. I take it that you are citing some kind of "replacement opportunity" when you say the sacrifice laws are observed. You neglected to say what the one being exercised is and how they are being observed.
^Fine. I take it that you are citing some kind of "replacement opportunity" when you say the sacrifice laws are observed. You neglected to say what the one being exercised is and how they are being observed.
Hosea, 14:3 -- take words with you and return to God and the words of our lips should replace sacrificial bulls.
16 Thus shall the children of Israel observe the Sabbath, to make the Sabbath throughout their generations as an everlasting covenant.
So, how is it changed to Sunday?...
To distinguish themselves from the Jews, Christians began to celebrate Sunday as the Lord's Day (the day Christ arose from the dead) rather than celebrating the Jewish Sabbath (although some Christian groups persisted in observing the Sabbath).
To distinguish themselves from the Jews, Christians began to celebrate Sunday as the Lord's Day (the day Christ arose from the dead) rather than celebrating the Jewish Sabbath (although some Christian groups persisted in observing the Sabbath).
So why do they insist that they are connected to us or we need to be connected to them?...
To distinguish themselves from the Jews, Christians began to celebrate Sunday as the Lord's Day (the day Christ arose from the dead) rather than celebrating the Jewish Sabbath (although some Christian groups persisted in observing the Sabbath).
It was out of fear of being seen as a Gentile doing Jewish things after the Jewish war, and it was instituted in paganism being that Sunday was held as the venerable day of the sun just as the winter solstice was accepted out of fear. I can't say that I would have been brave enough to keep biblical Sabbaths after the Jewish war, like any war, it breeds hate, and it was not cool to be a Christians keeping Jewish Sabbaths to look like Jews, if Jews were so hated, the Gentile Roman doing Jewish things was more hated. Hadrian had a lot to do with changing Christianity.
Hosea, 14:3 -- take words with you and return to God and the words of our lips should replace sacrificial bulls.
Funny, I found "2Take with you words and return to the LORD; say to him, “Take away all iniquity; accept what is good, and we will pay with bulls the vows of our lips."
Why would that be?
Could it have anything to do with the fact that Hosea was Northern kingdom away from Jerusalem?
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